UHC Ceo assassinated

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YoDoug

Quote from: Smit on December 10, 2024, 08:59 AMCareful Beej, it's a trick question!  :lol:

To the simple mind, everything is a trick.
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beej

Quote from: YoDoug on December 10, 2024, 08:58 AMDo you think the Sons of Liberty, that committed the Boston Tea Party, are treasonous criminals or heroes that sparked the American revolution from tyranny?

Heroes. because I agree with them. ;) They also didn't kill anyone did they? I think it was just a protest at that point.

I should also say that I am generally against revolution because it so often fails to bring good. But the American Revolution was incredulous in what it accomplished, and extremely rare in outcome.
Human pride weighed you down so heavily that only divine humility could raise you up again. ~Augustine of Hippo

YoDoug

Quote from: beej on December 10, 2024, 09:05 AMHeroes. because I agree with them. ;) They also didn't kill anyone did they? I think it was just a protest at that point.

I should also say that I am generally against revolution because it so often fails to bring good. But the American Revolution was incredulous in what it accomplished, and extremely rare in outcome.

Correct, they didn't kill anyone, but they did break the law.

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JParis

Perhaps it's time to take the entire healthcare system "out" of the "for profit" realm?

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YoDoug

I'm just going to say what a great time it was seeing my friend Luigi Mangione in MN on 12-4-2024 between 6am and 6pm. Always enjoy when he visits me and is not in NY.
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BrianP.

Quote from: JParis on December 10, 2024, 09:21 AMPerhaps it's time to take the entire healthcare system "out" of the "for profit" realm?



John we use all UMass doctors and hospitals. They are supposed to be non profit. Our costs are still through the roof.

YoDoug

Quote from: JParis on December 10, 2024, 09:21 AMPerhaps it's time to take the entire healthcare system "out" of the "for profit" realm?



We could use the department of education as the model. Every year they finds ways to save money and improve education results.  ::)
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RobertELee

Quote from: BrianP. on December 10, 2024, 09:29 AMJohn we use all UMass doctors and hospitals. They are supposed to be non profit. Our costs are still through the roof.

Same here with Mayo Clinic.

JParis

Quote from: YoDoug on December 10, 2024, 10:25 AMWe could use the department of education as the model. Every year they finds ways to save money and improve education results.  ::)


Most assuredly, I did not say "government controlled"

YoDoug

Quote from: JParis on December 10, 2024, 10:34 AMMost assuredly, I did not say "government controlled"

OK, so you mean like the post office then.
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Jim at Gentex

Quote from: Smit on December 10, 2024, 07:44 AMIf everybody is dug in to "we can't change because" we're going to always get more of the same shit we're all unhappy with.



Generally speaking, the people just overwhelmingly voted against the same shit we're all unhappy with in November.

We definitely CAN change, the question is 'do we want to?'

The status quo among both political parties is a powerful force to overcome, but not impossible.
I think having bright, successful businesspeople like Elon and Vivek take a hard look at how we spend our tax dollars in general is a great idea in theory.
I don't know anyone who is opposed to saving money where we can by forcing government to be more efficient.

However, when they start making REAL recommendations about cleaning up waste and corruption, THEN we'll see whether REAL change will actually happen.

When that opposition rises up, and it definitely will, at least we will be able to distinguish who those politicians are who want to keep the status quo, then we the people can vote them out, one by one, regardless of party affiliation.

THAT will be a change we can all agree on!  :cheers:
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JParis

Quote from: YoDoug on December 10, 2024, 10:44 AMOK, so you mean like the post office then.

No.

I mean function on their own. NO subsidies.

Non-profits are guided by certain financial and fiduciary laws.
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Incogneeto

Personally, I think he was waiting at McDonalds to assassinate Trump. >:(

Just in case He stopped in for some Fries. :)   

gcode

Quote from: Incogneeto on December 10, 2024, 01:32 PMJust in case He stopped in for some Fries

Trump works swing shift
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