LA is burning

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RobertELee

Quote from: Bucky Cornstarch on January 08, 2025, 08:50 AMTo deny that the climate is changing is asinine and ignorant. Or, about par for the course for a typical Trump voter.

Come on over to the common sense side, where we've been saying climate has been changing since the earth was a glimmer in the universes eye. And there is no amount of taxes and electric cars that arrogant humans can do about it.
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Incogneeto

Quote from: Smit on January 08, 2025, 08:24 AMAh yes, as Trump says, they should have cleaned their forests. :)

Funny to laugh at But , I grew up just below the Angeles Forest. And Yes there was Forestry Management.

Brush Clearing , Tree Harvesting and Fire Trails.

They would use Big Cats to cut the trails on hillsides.

They also used a lot of County Inmates. They got time off and perks for working them.

Then the soft hearted felt bad for them.(Liberals?)

The money was diverted to other projects.

So yes they cleaned the Forests. HTH!! :)
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Jeff

Quote from: Incogneeto on January 08, 2025, 09:06 AMFunny to laugh at But , I grew up just below the Angeles Forest. And Yes there was Forestry Management.

Brush Clearing , Tree Harvesting and Fire Trails.

They would use Big Cats to cut the trails on hillsides.

They also used a lot of County Inmates. They got time off and perks for working them.

Then the soft hearted felt bad for them.(Liberals?)

The money was diverted to other projects.

So yes they cleaned the Forests. HTH!! :)

Shit, you can't use truth, logic and common sense on Dumbsmit!
He thinks forestry management is a falsehood because he saw that Trump mentioned it.
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Smit

Quote from: Incogneeto on January 08, 2025, 09:06 AMFunny to laugh at But , I grew up just below the Angeles Forest. And Yes there was Forestry Management.

Yes, you are correct, proper forestry management would help, a lot. :cheers:

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RobertELee

Quote from: Smit on January 08, 2025, 09:10 AMYes, you are correct, proper forestry management would help, a lot. :cheers:

But it's been found to cause cancer, birth defects, and other reproductive harm in the People's Republic of Kalifornia.
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Jeff

Quote from: RobertELee on January 08, 2025, 09:17 AMBut it's been found to cause cancer, birth defects, and other reproductive harm in the People's Republic of Kalifornia.
I'm pretty sure that the reason they don't do it, is that they haven't figured out a way to profit and launder money from it yet.
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Jeff

Cue the whiny millionaire celebs complaining that they have to go to a hotel in 3...2...1...
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Newbeeee™

Quote from: Incogneeto on January 08, 2025, 09:06 AMFunny to laugh at But , I grew up just below the Angeles Forest. And Yes there was Forestry Management.

Brush Clearing , Tree Harvesting and Fire Trails.

They would use Big Cats to cut the trails on hillsides.

They also used a lot of County Inmates. They got time off and perks for working them.

Then the soft hearted felt bad for them.(Liberals?)

The money was diverted to other projects.

So yes they cleaned the Forests. HTH!! :)
With this being stopped by design, and ref James's comment saying insurance companies no quoting, is this an active plan to move people away from the forests?
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RobertELee

Quote from: Jeff on January 08, 2025, 09:22 AMCue the whiny millionaire celebs complaining that they have to go to a hotel  their island or mountain homes in 3...2...1...

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Incogneeto

Quote from: Smit on January 08, 2025, 09:10 AMYes, you are correct, proper forestry management would help, a lot. :cheers:

In The 60's and 70's you could harvest from designated areas.

Less to Burn.

But they regulated all of it out. And made it a crime.

We had fires and Santa Ana winds. But most people weren't Stoopid enough to build their Fancy Homes.

On the side of a Mountain off dry Brush.

California is Mostly Desert , Always has been always will be.

Nothing to do with Climate Change. ::)  ::)
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Jeff

With all of the mismanagement, these people will STILL vote blue despite losing everything because of it.
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CNCAppsJames

The conspiracy theorists are going crazy right now. Comparing the Malibu fire to the Maui fire and how it's all a big plan for developers to gain control over some of the most desirable acreage in the US.

Seems like a stretch to me.

My opinion FWIW, government mismanagement, malfeasance, and regulatory environment is the cause and blame. Now, will developers benefit? Almost certainly.  That's what inevitably happens when large swaths of acreage become available that was previously spoken for and cannot be developed by the current owner for one reason or another.

Here is the kicker for the Kommfornians caught in this situation of having to rebuild; Pulling permits to rebuild will trigger reassessment and property taxes will jump significantly. Perhaps by so much the owners will have no choice but to sell.

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Jeff

Quote from: gcode on January 08, 2025, 04:47 AMAnd all the fire hydrants in Pacfic Palisades have gone dry
Isn't that area like 20 miles from the ocean?
What's more beneficial? Letting the fires run rampant destroying billions of dollars worth of property or replacing a few dozen fire trucks and hoses because salt water damaged them?
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Quote from: CNCAppsJames on January 08, 2025, 09:31 AMThe conspiracy theorists are going crazy right now. Comparing the Malibu fire to the Maui fire and how it's all a big plan for developers to gain control over some of the most desirable acreage in the US.

Seems like a stretch to me.

My opinion FWIW, government mismanagement, malfeasance, and regulatory environment is the cause and blame. Now, will developers benefit? Almost certainly.  That's what inevitably happens when large swaths of acreage become available that was previously spoken for and cannot be developed by the current owner for one reason or another.

Here is the kicker for the Kommfornians caught in this situation of having to rebuild; Pulling permits to rebuild will trigger reassessment and property taxes will jump significantly. Perhaps by so much the owners will have no choice but to sell.

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There is a BIG elephant in the room, which is the kings terra carta. Named after the long ignored magna carta but it is tied RIGHT in ("legally") to, errr, everything.
Basically, nature, itself, will have as many rights, as anything living, and charley the tree talker, does like forests areas to be forest areas....
https://www.sustainable-markets.org/terra-carta/
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