Medical Transport plane crash - Philly

[Incogneeto]

Possibly fixed enough to go to a hospital closer to home to finish recovery? Perhaps she was not going to survive much longer and going home to be with family?

I don't know , just curious.

[CNCAppsJames]

Brutal outcome regardless. 

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[Jim at Gentex]

The three fundamentals that every pilot learns are,

-Aviate
-Navigate
-Communicate

^^In that order^^^

The fact that the Lear didn't respond to the tower seems to point to some drastic in-flight emergency that likely developed very quickly and required the immediate attention of the crew to the point where responding to the tower was not the priority.

So sad for everyone involved.    
Again, there is MUCH speculation, especially on social media, where the conspiracy theories have already started.

I hope people will just let the NTSB do its job and find the answers to what happened and why.
In this age of immediate gratification and 24-hour news cycles, it is nearly impossible to conduct an exhaustive, time-consuming investigation of anything, but that is what is needed here.

I'm sure the answers will eventually come out, but probably not as quickly as people would like.

[RobertELee]

there is MUCH speculation, especially on social media, where the conspiracy theories have already started.

I've seen so many people saying it was a missile and planes don't fly into the ground like that. No shit Sherlock, planes aren't SUPPOSED to, but they certainly can.

And a missile would have left a much bigger boom than just a fireball and impact crater.

[Rstewart]

I've fired a missile or three.

Can confirm, the impact crater of most I'm familiar with would have been less fire and more damage at the impact.  It appears everything around the site was just engulfed in flames from the jet fuel.

[Bucky Cornstarch]

An F-35, a CRJ-700, a Blackhawk, and a Lear Business Jet walk into a bar.

[ghuns]

Miraculous that more weren't killed on the ground.

[Incogneeto]

Miraculous that more weren't killed on the ground.

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6368199892112

[CNCAppsJames]

The three fundamentals that every pilot learns are,

-Aviate
-Navigate
-Communicate

^^In that order^^^

The fact that the Lear didn't respond to the tower seems to point to some drastic in-flight emergency that likely developed very quickly and required the immediate attention of the crew to the point where responding to the tower was not the priority.

I would have thought with all the attention that Capt. Sully (miracle in the Hudson) got along with the movie for the TLDR crowd, that they would have learned #1 priority is FLY THE PLANE. Then again, 80,000,000 people voted for a senile, incontinent, octogenarian in Joe Biden allegedly so I suppose I should not be surprised.

Every time I try to give the majority of the general public the benefit of the doubt that they have at least a shred of common sense, I am disappointed.

[Jim at Gentex]

Miraculous that more weren't killed on the ground.

Yes, even though it is tragic, it was very fortunate in a way where it hit the ground.

I was listening to a Philly EMS guy giving a phone interview on Fox News who was basically in charge of the firefighting effort for that section of the city.
He indicated that the point of impact was just a few hundred yards from a densely populated neighborhood composed mostly of the older style of tightly packed row-houses.
He said it was fortunate for everyone that the jet didn't impact directly into that neighborhood because he thought they may have lost 3 to 4 city blocks, and possibly hundreds of lives before they would be able to contain a huge fire like that.

So yeah, as bad as it was, it could have been much worse. 

[Jeff]

I would have thought with all the attention that Capt. Sully (miracle in the Hudson) got

I refuse to see that movie.

[Del.]

The three fundamentals that every pilot learns are,

-Aviate
-Navigate
-Communicate

^^In that order^^^

The fact that the Lear didn't respond to the tower seems to point to some drastic in-flight emergency that likely developed very quickly and required the immediate attention of the crew to the point where responding to the tower was not the priority.

So sad for everyone involved.    
Again, there is MUCH speculation, especially on social media, where the conspiracy theories have already started.

I hope people will just let the NTSB do its job and find the answers to what happened and why.
In this age of immediate gratification and 24-hour news cycles, it is nearly impossible to conduct an exhaustive, time-consuming investigation of anything, but that is what is needed here.

I'm sure the answers will eventually come out, but probably not as quickly as people would like.

They definitely had catastrophic failure of tail section for it to go straight down.

[gcode]

I read that the black box on that plane was found buried eight feet deep.
That plane came down nearly vertical and a very high speed.
It had some sort on catastrophic structural failure.

[CNCAppsJames]

When the MD-80's failed due to a worn jackscrew ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Airlines_Flight_261 ) in the vertical stabilizer, it caused the rear aileron to go to max angle which would pitch the aircraft to a nose down ~75° orientation.

After the 2nd crash in a short period of time, the maintenance interval was adjusted.
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