Trump: US military ‘turned on the water

[RobertELee]

The articles came from:

Combined statement from:Tule River AssociationLower Tule River Irrigation DistrictKaweah & St. Johns Rivers AssociationTulare Irrigation District

Not just from one guy. 

I guess they could all by those pesky climate change activists. 

So 51 former intelligence officials then?

[neurosis]

It is obvious once you zoom in that they have made it so that the canal can flow into the river or the river into the canal. It's also possible that he just doesn't want Trump to be right. Just like NPR. I took a snapshot of google maps. If I could figure out how to upload it here, I would

I haven't looked, but the wording of one of the articles makes it sound like it's possible to divert water and allow it to flow that direction. To clarify, they said water does "not typically" go that direction.

According to multiple water agencies in California, that isn't what happened. So even if it's possible, which I don't know that it is, they didn't do their due diligence to make sure that the water went where they wanted it to. Even though it wasn't necessary because the reservoirs were already full.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25512244-2025-2-3-statement-on-acoe-water-releases/

[gcode]

It is possible that he just knows more about the water system in Cali than a bunch of arm chair political (and vaccination, constitutional law, insert other things we're experts on here) experts on a machinist forum?

He's a California state government employee.
The only things he knows for certain is the current worth of his state pension, his retirement date and which one day of each month he has to show up at the office and pretend to work.

[neurosis]

So 51 former intelligence officials then?

Where are your "facts" coming from?  Beej, a cartoon map, and zooming in to Google Earth? 

[neurosis]

He's a California state government employee.
The only things he knows for certain is the current worth of his state pension, his retirement date and which one day of each month he has to show up at the office and pretend to work.

I'm going to guess that is about as much as we know about that water system.

[RobertELee]

Where are your "facts" coming from?  Beej, a cartoon map, and zooming in to Google Earth? 

The map is from National Geographic explaining how the Cali system works. And google maps is pretty dang accurate since it's just a picture. Or is everything AI now?

[Bucky Cornstarch]

Guys, I can settle this once and for all.

I've got a close friend who was a hydrologist for the State of California for many years, and now is a hydrologist in Oregon. I'll ask her, as I'm sure she'd know. While I'm talking to her, I'll let her know that she didn't need to move to Portland, because when she lived in Northern California she already lived in the Pacific Northwest.

[RobertELee]

Guys, I can settle this once and for all.

I've got a close friend who was a hydrologist for the State of California for many years, and now is a hydrologist in Oregon. I'll ask her, as I'm sure she'd know. While I'm talking to her, I'll let her know that she didn't need to move to Portland, because when she lived in Northern California she already lived in the Pacific Northwest.

LOL!! I'm sure we'll get the straight honest truth from you... 

[Incogneeto]

Guys, I can settle this once and for all.

I've got a close friend who was a hydrologist for the State of California for many years, and now is a hydrologist in Oregon. I'll ask her, as I'm sure she'd know. While I'm talking to her, I'll let her know that she didn't need to move to Portland, because when she lived in Northern California she already lived in the Pacific Northwest.

Won't that violate Her Restraining Order??

[neurosis]

The map is from National Geographic explaining how the Cali system works. And google maps is pretty dang accurate since it's just a picture. Or is everything AI now?

Fair enough.

Show me any evidence at all that say's the water Trump released went to LA. Or anywhere that it could have been used to fight the fires. And not a picture of a map or a google map image.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaweah_River

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tule_River

"The Army Corps of Engineers abruptly began releasing large flows on Friday, sending water streaming from Terminus Dam into the Kaweah River near Visalia and from Schafer Dam into the Tule River near Porterville. The high flows continued for a day, then lessened somewhat, and ended Sunday."


For the google map image:

"Friant Kern Canal Location
The Friant-Kern Canaldoes not run into Los Angeles. It begins at the Friant Dam on Millerton Lake, north of Fresno, and flows south along the eastern edge of the San Joaquin Valley, ending near Bakersfield where it joins the Kern River. The canal's primary purpose is to provide water for agricultural and municipal use in the southern San Joaquin Valley, not to supply water to Los Angeles."

"Tule River and Los Angeles
The Tule River does not run into Los Angeles. The Tule River is located in Tulare County, California, and flows westward from its source in the Sierra Nevada mountains, eventually reaching the former Tulare Lake bed. It does not connect to the Los Angeles River, which is situated in a different region of California and flows into Los Angeles Harbor."

"The water stored in the Kern Water Bank is primarily used by agricultural interests and can be sold back to the state during droughts. However, the process of diverting water from the Kern Water Bank to LA reservoirs would require agreements and permissions from multiple entities and regulatory bodies, making it a highly complex and unlikely scenario.

In summary, while the Kern Water Bank is a significant water storage facility, the water it holds is not readily available for diversion to LA reservoirs due to the legal and operational constraints of California's water management system."

[neurosis]

LOL!! I'm sure we'll get the straight honest truth from you... 

I'm starting to think we all have some trust issues at this point.   

[neurosis]

Now, I really have to wonder about this Peter Gleik guy, the so called expert hydrologist for the region. Did he even look on Google Maps? Did he just assume that Trump doesn't know what he's talking about.

Here, this isn't from Peter Gleik.

"Tulare County water managers were perplexed and frustrated, noting both physical and legal barriers that make it virtually impossible for Tulare County river water to be used for southern California fires.

First, it would have to be pumped at great expense across the San Joaquin Valley to get to the California Aqueduct and then travel hundreds of miles south.

Second, this isn't "loose" water free for the taking.

"Every drop belongs to someone," said Kaweah River Watermaster Victor Hernandez. "The reservoir may belong to the federal government, but the water is ours. If someone's playing political games with this water, it's wrong.""

[Incogneeto]

 I would've given this thread a decent Burial on the second page.

But I gotta hand it to ya.

You have given "Anal Retentive" New Meaning.

[neurosis]

I would've given this thread a decent Burial on the second page.

But I gotta hand it to ya.

You have given "Anal Retentive" New Meaning.

I would agree that about 90% of the posts in this thread are useless. 

I will hand it to some Trump supporters. They are just as stubborn as Trump.

This feels like it could become a "Mark My Words" moment.  How much do you want to bet that if this summer, the farmers affected by this water dumb start complaining about a lack of water, Trump is going to scream water mismanagement.

[RobertELee]

"Every drop belongs to someone,"

Quoted for posterity.

Could it possibly be the Resnicks?