Deregulated ‘Freedom Cities’

[neurosis]

I read about this while going down some rabbit holes and thought it was interesting. This isn't mean to be a Trump negativity post, although I think the only chance of something like this being possible would be through Trump.

This has that 'what could possibly go wrong' feel to it.


'Startup Nation' Groups Say They're Meeting Trump Officials to Push for Deregulated 'Freedom Cities'

The architects of projects like Próspera are drafting legislation to create US cities that would be free from federal regulations.

https://www.wired.com/story/startup-nations-donald-trump-legislation/

According to interviews and presentations viewed by WIRED, the goal of these cities would be to have places where anti-aging clinical trials, nuclear reactor startups, and building construction can proceed without having to get prior approval from agencies like the Food and Drug Administration, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, and the Environmental Protection Agency.

[SuperHoneyBadger]

I predict, not as bad as Portland or Seattle's antifa no-go zones, but a different style of lawlessness where they fancy themselves righteous cowboys instead of revolutionaries. Interesting to see what would happen, but as always, wondering what corporate America stands to gain. Unlimited neurolink testing? Robot police? The seeds of an aryan ethnostate? Nothing at all?

Also is this one of the manifsto points from Project 2025? Creating centralized pockets of power where a demonstration of the full plan can be attempted. Startup Nation is, after all, a group of Israeli origin so that goes hand in hand with the current US admin.

I find it humorous that you NEED the feds to eschew the feds though, absolute poetry.

[neurosis]

I find it humorous that you NEED the feds to eschew the feds though, absolute poetry.

I would imagine that this could become a problem on a State level as well. Some States may welcome one of these cities but some may not want them. Especially if there is no, say, environmental regulations.

[SuperHoneyBadger]

Yeah, and the example cities cited are local pariahs to everyone except the people spouting off about how great they are. I'm all for a new way of building a city, make it better and more efficient instead of following the horsecart paths, etc. But these will devolve into a techno dystopia, after further reading. Silicon valley is highly involved and charged up, big investors want returns, and these days that means data points.

[beej]

I read about this while going down some rabbit holes and thought it was interesting. This isn't mean to be a Trump negativity post, although I think the only chance of something like this being possible would be through Trump.

This has that 'what could possibly go wrong' feel to it.


'Startup Nation' Groups Say They're Meeting Trump Officials to Push for Deregulated 'Freedom Cities'

The architects of projects like Próspera are drafting legislation to create US cities that would be free from federal regulations.

https://www.wired.com/story/startup-nations-donald-trump-legislation/

the main thing to know from the article is that we should all be fearful, all the time, in every way, in the most extreme extent possible of people who don't think like us and.....be more inclusive.

[YoDoug]

Regulation is amoral. Over-regulation and under-regulation both have their own negatives. This reads like big business wants a free for all to make lots of money really fast without having to worry about potential harm they could do.

[neurosis]

Regulation is amoral. Over-regulation and under-regulation both have their own negatives. This reads like big business wants a free for all to make lots of money really fast without having to worry about potential harm they could do.

That's why I feel like some States would be more welcoming to them than others. Texas might not mind, while California might have a big problem.

And would the States get to decide since the land is Federal?

[Smit]

Just wondering...

Suppose Texas allowed a "Freedom city" to be built. I expect it would take a shitload of money to make it attractive to work in a place like that. I mean, it's easy to imagine how companies would be if they didn't have federal regulations to make them take care of safety.

So if they can't attract the right people to make it go would they bring in immigrants to work there? 

[YoDoug]

That's why I feel like some States would be more welcoming to them than others. Texas might not mind, while California might have a big problem.

And would the States get to decide since the land is Federal?

Honestly I am more of a states rights guy so I would like less of this at federal levels and more done by state and local gov. It really is a balancing act though. You give business too much "freedom" and you end up with a large portion of the population harmed, sometimes beyond just financially. On the other hand you make too much red tape and that hurts business and often the customers and employees of those businesses. IMO, the biggest problem with common sense regs and gov for that matter is the 2 party system.

[Newbeeee™]

Regulation is amoral. Over-regulation and under-regulation both have their own negatives. This reads like big business wants a free for all to make lots of money really fast without having to worry about potential harm they could do.

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Chicken for dinner Doug, but not KFC (if you've seen the new advert you'd know.... )

[Zoffen]

This feels like the boom-bust Company towns of the late 1800's early 1900's

Its a shame that are options have come down to:

A. Liberal hellholes run by what are effectively retards

or

B. Techno dystopia run by eugenicists and/or AI

Cabin in the mountain or boat on the ocean is sounding better and better by the day....

[SuperHoneyBadger]

This feels like the boom-bust Company towns of the late 1800's early 1900's

With AI robo brothels this time, I hope.

[Smit]

Westworld?

[beej]

This feels like the boom-bust Company towns of the late 1800's early 1900's

Its a shame that are options have come down to:

A. Liberal hellholes run by what are effectively retards

or

B. Techno dystopia run by eugenicists and/or AI

Cabin in the mountain or boat on the ocean is sounding better and better by the day....

our options haven't come down to that. the writer of the article wants you to believe that as bad as option A is, what ever republicans come up with will be worse. We have examples of option A. where are the examples of option B?

[neurosis]

is, what ever republicans come up with will be worse.

Where in the article does it infer that this is a Republican (or Democrat) idea?