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neurosis

I wonder if Elon feels that way after wasting all of that money in Wisconsin. :lol:
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

gcode

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Quote from: neurosis on April 02, 2025, 01:05 AMI wonder if Elon feels that way after wasting all of that money in Wisconsin. :lol:

The voter id ballot measure passed 60/40, but I suspect it will not survive court challenges.
The Wisconsin Supreme Court will rubber stamp any challenge the Democratic party files...
and I have no doubt they are working up a challenge as we speak.

Bucky Cornstarch

Quote from: gcode on April 02, 2025, 05:06 AMThe voter id ballot measure passed 60/40, but I suspect it will not survive court challenges.
The Wisconsin Supreme Court will rubber stamp any challenge the Democratic party files...
and I have no doubt they are working up a challenge as we speak.

The judicial branch, and the rule of law in general, can be pesky that way.

beej

Quote from: Bucky Cornstarch on April 02, 2025, 05:38 AMThe judicial branch, and the rule of law in general, can be pesky that way.

I have a certain reverence for pesky. gnats keep the herd moving!
Human pride weighed you down so heavily that only divine humility could raise you up again. ~Augustine of Hippo

gcode

Quote from: Bucky Cornstarch on April 02, 2025, 05:38 AMThe judicial branch, and the rule of law in general, can be pesky that way.
Voter ID is fundamental, especially when the people of Wisconsin vote 60/40 to amend the state constitution
to mandate voter id
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neurosis

I don't usually cheerlead other States elections unless I feel there is a reason to change the US house and senate, but with Musk very publically and blatantly buying voters, then resorting to hyperbole "this election could determine the future of civilization." :rolleyes: (what a crock of horse shit) It made it a lot easier to at least laugh at.

I don't know much about it, but if Wisconsin voters approved a constitutional amendment to require voter id, and it gets overturned, that would be some B/S. 
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I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

gcode

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Quote from: neurosis on April 02, 2025, 06:04 AMI don't usually cheerlead other States elections unless I feel there is a reason to change the US house and senate, but with Musk very publically and blatantly buying voters, then resorting to hyperbole "this election could determine the future of civilization." :rolleyes: (what a crock of horse shit) It made it a lot easier to at least laugh at.

I don't know much about it, but if Wisconsin voters approved a constitutional amendment to require voter id, and it gets overturned, that would be some B/S.

The Dem's primary anti Trump strategy is to retake the House in 2026.
The Dem supported Wisconsin Supreme Court candidate has promised to gerrymand 2 Republican districts into Dem districts for the 2026 election.
All the money and hyperbole was not about a state supreme court justice, it was about 2 house seats and the Republican House majority in 2026.
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beej

Quote from: neurosis on April 02, 2025, 06:04 AMI don't usually cheerlead other States elections unless I feel there is a reason to change the US house and senate, but with Musk very publically and blatantly buying voters, then resorting to hyperbole "this election could determine the future of civilization." :rolleyes: (what a crock of horse shit) It made it a lot easier to at least laugh at.

I don't know much about it, but if Wisconsin voters approved a constitutional amendment to require voter id, and it gets overturned, that would be some B/S.

A lot of people complain about the money in politics. there is something to be said for that, but I tend to think that the money in politics doesn't make the difference where most people think. I don't think that you could persuade someone to vote for Donald Trump with money if their ideals align with democrats or vice versa.

The money that is really influential is during the primaries. elevating one democrat politician over another, or one republican candidate over another. Soros and the Koch's understand that, but a lot of us lay people just tend to think otherwise. I could be wrong about this, but it sure seems to me, to be the case.

So musk could spend all he wants to get a certain type of judge but we just saw once again that it had no affect. We keep seeing the same thing in the push to get Ted Cruz defeated in Texas. The Democrats always throw a lot of money at that race to no avail.
Human pride weighed you down so heavily that only divine humility could raise you up again. ~Augustine of Hippo

Smit

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The Wisconsin voter ID law added language to the state constitution that solidified an already existing law. It will be very difficult to overturn.

Quote from: beej on April 02, 2025, 06:20 AMSo musk could spend all he wants to get a certain type of judge but we just saw once again that it had no affect. We keep seeing the same thing in the push to get Ted Cruz defeated in Texas. The Democrats always throw a lot of money at that race to no avail.

I kinda think it had the opposite affect Musk was after. Offering money to voters is in poor taste and disrespectful as hell, IMHO.

Trying to buy a judge so they could get a law against auto manufacturers owning dealerships is in poor taste and disrespectful as hell.

On a side note, requiring 3rd party car dealers probably cost those 3rd party car dealers a shit ton of money but hey, it's the law. :shrug:
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gcode

Quote from: Smit on April 02, 2025, 06:23 AMThe Wisconsin voter ID law added language to the state constitution that solidified an already existing law. It will be very difficult to overturn.

They'll get it done...disenfranchising thousands of dead voters would violate every principal the Democratic party has.
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beej

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democrats lost 2 more seats in the house. republican majority is now 220-213. it was 218-215.
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Bucky Cornstarch

Quote from: gcode on April 02, 2025, 06:56 AMThey'll get it done...disenfranchising thousands of dead voters would violate every principal the Democratic party has.

Yeah because that's what's happening...dead people are voting. I'd ask where you get your info but you aren't shy about sharing the fact that you are easily duped into believing the most fantastical rage bait out there.
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CNCAppsJames

Quote from: neurosis on April 02, 2025, 06:04 AMI don't know much about it, but if Wisconsin voters approved a constitutional amendment to require voter id, and it gets overturned, that would be some B/S.
California passed a proposition (Constitutional Amendment) by OVERWHELMING majority to state that a "marriage" is between a man and a woman. The state (read Democrats) refused to defend it in court and it was struck down at the State Supreme Court as "Un-Constitutional". Imagine that, the State Constitution was legally amended by due process, and the State Supreme Court deemed it unconstitutional.

And people wonder why I have such seething disdain for these activist court jurists jesters.
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gcode

Quote from: Bucky Cornstarch on April 02, 2025, 09:47 AMbecause that's what's happening...

Hey, I'm glad we agree on something for a change  :htu:
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