Trump administration ‘looking at’ suspending habeas corpus

[CNCAppsJames]

"Illegally" deporting people that shouldn't even be here in the first place?

Did you actually read that as you were typing that?

It's a good thing I'm not in charge... I'd put parachutes and a static line on those people and put 'em in a C-17 and drop 'em off somewhere. 

[mowens]

If someone is accused of a capital crime, of course due process should be applied.

Why do they get due process in this case but not in the deportation scenario?

[neurosis]

"Illegally" deporting people that shouldn't even be here in the first place?

Did you actually read that as you were typing that?

Yes, that was bad wording, but better wording wouldn't make a difference.

I know that's a difficult concept to wrap our head around now that we've become constitutionally challenged. 

[Del.]

Isn't asking for proof of legal status Due Process. I think it is.

[neurosis]

Isn't asking for proof of legal status Due Process. I think it is.

I'm pretty sure that there is a legal process in place to remove illegal immigrants? There is even an expedited removal process for certain circumstances, which several past administrations took advantage of, including Trump (I think Trump expanded the process?). Rounding people up who have been here for years, putting them on a plane, and sticking them in a prison in another Country, isn't one of the legal processes. 

[Del.]

I'm pretty sure that there is a legal process in place to remove illegal immigrants? There is even an expedited removal process for certain circumstances, which several past administrations took advantage of, including Trump (I think Trump expanded the process?). Rounding people up who have been here for years, putting them on a plane, and sticking them in a prison in another Country, isn't one of the legal processes. 

Is there a Statute of Limitations on illegal entry?

[neurosis]

Is there a Statute of Limitations on illegal entry?

"Since January 21, 2025, the Department of Homeland Security has expanded the use of expedited removal to apply anywhere in the country against any undocumented person who cannot prove they have been in the U.S. for two years. This expansion means that individuals can now be subject to expedited removal regardless of their proximity to the border or the time elapsed since their entry. "

I'm not sure what it was prior to that.

[neurosis]

Is there a Statute of Limitations on illegal entry?

This is part of a paragraph from Trumps memorandum changing the criteria for expedited deportation.  Apparently (I think we saw this in the Cornell Law explanation of illegal immigrants right to due process) before the change, it was within 14 days and 100 miles of the border.

Personally, I like the changes made in the memorandum. Some of them anyway. Now if he would only adhere to it.


"who are inadmissible to the United States under
section 212(a)(6)(C) or section 212(a)(7) of the INA, and who have not affirmatively shown, to
the satisfaction of an immigration officer, that they have been continuously physically present in
the United States for the two-year period immediately prior to the determination of their
inadmissibility. To date, this authority has only been exercised to designate for application of
expedited removal, aliens encountered within 100 air miles of the border and 14 days of entry,
and aliens who arrived in the United States by sea other than at a port of entry. 1 "

[Jeff]

People crying that these illegal alien criminal gang members aren't getting due process conveniently ignore all of the J6'ers that never got it.

[mowens]

Was it okay to do it for the J6'ers?

Suspending due process for any group of people sets a bad precedent and bodes ill for the rest of us.

[neurosis]

People crying that these illegal alien criminal gang members aren't getting due process conveniently ignore all of the J6'ers that never got it.

How many were even held without bail? And why?

About the only claim I've seen coming from the right that was even close to true about Jan 6th and "due process" was the possible violation of right to speedy trial.

"However, under the Speedy Trial Act, defendants have a right to be tried within 70 days of indictment, unless there is a reasonable excuse for a delay that both the defense and prosecution agree on." 

Who was denied due process?

[Jeff]

How many were even held without bail?

I believe all of the ones that Trump pardoned didn't have due process.
That is why he pardoned them.

[neurosis]

I believe all of the ones that Trump pardoned didn't have due process.
That is why he pardoned them.

That's not even close to true.

[Tim Johnson]

"Illegally" deporting people that shouldn't even be here in the first place?

Did you actually read that as you were typing that?

It's a good thing I'm not in charge... I'd put parachutes and a static line on those people and put 'em in a C-17 and drop 'em off somewhere.

I would prefer pumpkin chuckers.

[Smit]

Republicans wrap themselves in the flag, wipe their asses with the constitution, and declare to the world how patriotic they are for worshiping their great orange hope.

Party uber alles comrades.

MAGA