RFK hearing

Started by Del., January 29, 2025, 09:01 AM

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Incogneeto

Quote from: neurosis on June 28, 2025, 02:47 PMI was generalizing about anti-vaxers.



I could hear the Slap all the way down here in southern Indiana. :shock:  :shock:
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Newbeeee™

Quote from: neurosis on June 28, 2025, 02:13 PMYes. But those studies get scrutinized by thousands of other scientists who aren't paid by those companies. 

But it all comes back to the few, same, reports/tests.
It's like sandvik producing a report stating that you can only cut a 100 inches/min. FACT. Gold std.
And then everyone else, "scrutinises" but quotes it.
Nobody, practically, jumps on a machine to verify, or perhaps, run a bit faster "just to see".
So everything and everyone, cites back to that one paper.
And it gets regurgitated and regurgitated but still is "thee" base paper.
This is what i found a lot, when digging ref my sister's C.
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neurosis

Quote from: Incogneeto on June 28, 2025, 02:52 PMI could hear the Slap all the way down here in southern Indiana. :shock:  :shock:

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you have no idea what you're talking about or defending.  :lol:
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Newbeeee™

Quote from: neurosis on June 28, 2025, 02:58 PMI'm going to go out on a limb and say that you have no idea what you're talking about or defending.  :lol:
Incog not so dumbdumb....
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neurosis

Quote from: Newbeeee™ on June 28, 2025, 02:58 PMThis is what i found a lot, when digging ref my sister's C.

Yea.. Sorry.. I'm not trying to demean your research on that. 




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neurosis

Quote from: Newbeeee™ on June 28, 2025, 03:01 PMIncog not so dumbdumb....

lol. yea, he is. 

Ask him some specifics. 
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Newbeeee™

Quote from: neurosis on June 28, 2025, 03:03 PMYea.. Sorry.. I'm not trying to demean your research on that. 





Don't worry - I'm not offended by that.
But what revs me is the constructed lies and foundations of sand that it's all built on.
Did you watch the short vid i linked - the UK Mod 40 year study? Trying to transfer colds/virus into healthy people - it doesn't work. Just like the 1918 spanish flu army trials.
40 year test.
20k people.
Couldn't. Catch. A. Cold.
Yet, we all gotta go get a jabby as it's season and and and :rolleyes:
It's a natural body detox. Changemymind.
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Del.

Quote from: neurosis on June 28, 2025, 02:13 PMYes. But those studies get scrutinized by thousands of other scientists who aren't paid by those companies. 

My complaint is how some people are willing to believe a few even when thousands contradict.


Yet that's what you do with Trump.
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neurosis

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neurosis

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Speaking of misrepresenting studies. 

In RFK Jr's letter to congress regarding Covid-19 vaccine recommendation for young children and pregnant women, he not only misrepresented several studies. He flat out lied about at least one of them. He even cites studies that have been disputed or are unpublished.

"One of the studies the HHS document cites is under investigation by its publisher, Sage Journals, regarding "potential issues with the research methodology and conclusions and author conflicts of interest," according to a link on the study's webpage"

Regardless of how you feel about the Covid Vaccination, how is anyone supposed to trust our own Secretary of HHS when he blatantly lies about and misrepresents studies that he uses to make medical recommendations to Congress? Or, how does he get appointed to that position when he has a history of lying about studies to push an anti-vax agenda?

These guys discuss all of that, and the myocarditis concerns/misconceptions as well.




The use of VAERS

"Anti-vaxxers frequently cite VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) data because it provides a publicly accessible database of self-reported adverse events following vaccination, which can be easily misinterpreted or manipulated to support preconceived narratives. VAERS is a passive reporting system that accepts submissions from anyone, including healthcare providers, vaccine manufacturers, and the general public, and does not require verification of the reported events.
This lack of verification makes it susceptible to misuse, as it can include anecdotal, coincidental, or even fabricated reports."


QuoteVAERS was established in 1988 as a reporting surveillance system in which anyone can submit a claim about an adverse event they or someone else has experienced after receiving a vaccine. It is managed by the CDC and FDA, but reports submitted to the system are unverified.

To illustrate the point that caution must be exercised when interpreting VAERS data, anesthesiologist James Laidler, MD, submitted a claim to the system in 2004 claiming a vaccine turned him into the Incredible Hulk. The CDC eventually followed up with Dr. Laidler and asked for his permission to remove the report, but he told VICE it would still be there today if he had not given them his approval.
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Smit

Quote from: neurosis on July 02, 2025, 03:21 AMOr, how does he get appointed to that position when he has a history of lying about studies to push an anti-vax agenda?

That one's easy to answer. He swore fealty to their orange god. Like all the other cabinet members. Duh. :rolleyes:

neurosis

Quote from: Smit on July 02, 2025, 05:00 AMThat one's easy to answer. He swore fealty to their orange god. Like all the other cabinet members. Duh. :rolleyes:

I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he started pulling the same b/s once he was appointed. Firing all 17 members of the ACIP and then filling the positions with like-minded anti-vaxers was the first red flag. :shrug: 

Expecting the "but Fauci Fauci Fauci" defense. 
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Del.

You ever consider that maybe RFK is right?
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neurosis

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Quote from: Del. on July 02, 2025, 06:40 AMYou ever consider that maybe RFK is right?


If you're talking about my post above, what on earth would make you think he's right? Everything he claimed was based on false information and lies. If he's right, (first of all, how would he know that he was right) why doesn't he provide studies that show that he's right?
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Del.

Quote from: neurosis on July 02, 2025, 06:47 AMIf you're talking about my post above, what on earth would make you think he's right? Everything he claimed was based on false information and lies.

Says you.
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