Trump needs to sign an EO to release the Epstein list!

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ghuns

IMHO, the evidence obtained by the Epstein investigation was SOOOOOOOOOOO damaging to BOTH sides that the Biden and Trump administrations determined that it could NEVER be made public.

Also IMHO, that leads me to believe that the worst of it is NOT dudes flying to a private island to bone underage girls.

So then you have to ask, what could be worse? What would be so damaging that Biden would miss a chance to destroy Trump and/or any Repubs? What would be so damaging that Trump wouldn't want to bury every Dem he possibly could, even if some Repubs had to go down too?

I don't think it's at all tin foil hatty to suggest that what is worse is that elements of our .gov, intelligence orgs, and those of our allies were behind Epstein. They set him up in the business of blackmail. Blackmail to leverage the most powerful people in the world.

Trust in our .gov is at an all time low. Admitting something like that? The damage would be immeasurable.

beej

Quote from: ghuns on July 09, 2025, 06:21 AMI don't think it's at all tin foil hatty to suggest that what is worse is that elements of our .gov, intelligence orgs, and those of our allies were behind Epstein. They set him up in the business of blackmail. Blackmail to leverage the most powerful people in the world.

supposing that is true, why wouldn't Trump and Kash Patel use that to point out corruption of the deep state? It would only help them nail down that argument.

The other thing that could be true, is that, the story surrounding Epstein was blown out of proportion to drive distrust in political elites for a populist movement. I'm not saying either of these 2 scenarios is right or wrong. Just that neither would surprise me, but the one thing about a conspiracy theory is that they are never---ever proved wrong. there is always one... more.... question that needs answered
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Jeff

Pay attention to their wording.
"There's no evidence of a list"
What can that mean? It COULD mean that there WAS a list, but it's been destroyed.
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Quote from: beej on July 09, 2025, 07:08 AMsupposing that is true, why wouldn't Trump and Kash Patel use that to point out corruption of the deep state? It would only help them nail down that argument.

The other thing that could be true, is that, the story surrounding Epstein was blown out of proportion to drive distrust in political elites for a populist movement. I'm not saying either of these 2 scenarios is right or wrong. Just that neither would surprise me, but the one thing about a conspiracy theory is that they are never---ever proved wrong. there is always one... more.... question that needs answered

1st para - because firstly, their direct loved ones would immediately die in a car crash. Then the rest of their loved ones would coincidentally have the same "accident".
Until, they were alone....

2nd para - dang you're sweet and innocent at times beej!
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ghuns

Quote from: beej on July 09, 2025, 07:08 AMsupposing that is true, why wouldn't Trump and Kash Patel use that to point out corruption of the deep state?...



So many people on both sides would go down, I think it's mutually assured destruction if the list ever came to light.

Say those running the operation were CIA and/or Mossad, it would cripple the CIA leaving us blind to any potential attacks and irreparably damage relations with Israel.

beej

Quote from: Newbeeee™ on July 09, 2025, 08:06 AM2nd para - dang you're sweet and innocent at times beej

Mostly just skeptical of humanity's ability to keep that kind of information secret.

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Quote from: beej on July 09, 2025, 09:34 AMMostly just skeptical of humanity's ability to keep that kind of information secret.

This is where my mind goes when it comes to conspiracies. Some would have to include a LOT of people, and most of us don't keep secrets very well. 
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

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Jeff

According to Alan Dershowitz, the list does exist.


Newbeeee™

He should know - Virginia Guffrie said he was very much on it.
And then....
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Quote from: Newbeeee™ on July 11, 2025, 08:49 AMVirginia Guffrie said he was very much on it
Wasn't she the Aussie that was mysteriously hit by an empty bus in the middle of nowhere and died after outing Prince Andrew?
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Quote from: Jeff on July 11, 2025, 10:21 AMWasn't she the Aussie that was mysteriously hit by an empty bus in the middle of nowhere and died after outing Prince Andrew?
Yep. Started out at Mar a Largo before "moving" to various Epstein residences....apparently....
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