Trump needs to sign an EO to release the Epstein list!

[neurosis]

Republicans were the main ones pushing this conspiracy before democrats pounced on it. I

And that's what makes this so beautiful.    They created this beast.

Trump has gone out of his way to make himself look guilty. The 180 he did, calling his own supporters stupid, saying that this is the next Russian hoax when he ran on releasing the "files".

It always aggravates me when either party focuses on conspiracy theories rather than policy differences.

They do make great distractions? 
 

[beej]

And that's what makes this so beautiful.    They created this beast.

Trump has gone out of his way to make himself look guilty. The 180 he did, calling his own supporters stupid, saying that this is the next Russian hoax when he ran on releasing the "files".

They do make great distractions? 
 

and a lot of republicans would say that the things that Tulsi Gabbard is releasing is beautiful as well. Trump, accused of collusion, was actually colluded against. I guess if these 2 things are related, that's how.

Where you see the beauty is evidence of your lean.

[neurosis]

Where you see the beauty is evidence of your lean.

I don't lean either direction but I'll give you that I am biased against Trump.

The Gabbard thing is a nothingburger. Unless you can show me something new that she's bringing out?

[neurosis]

Where you see the beauty is evidence of your lean.

I'm going to keep my eye on these and see if the information changes.

I've found this ai to be one of the better at scraping information that is the least biased. It even scrapes government sites and law sites for info.


https://www.perplexity.ai/search/is-there-evidence-that-obama-c-mQiqVyRXTuKP5DFSwbk58w

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/how-do-the-allegations-of-a-co-iKi55eiuSvG9NaibXPxWxw

[beej]

The Gabbard thing is a nothingburger. Unless you can show me something new that she's bringing out?

I would not go so far as to say there is anything new. but it's not a nothing-burger.

however, you are proving my point. What they did to handcuff Trump's first term is terrible, and you don't seem outraged by the fact that Obama directed intelligence agencies to create false reports and then, leak them to the press in order to turn the middle against him.

[beej]

I'm going to keep my eye on these and see if the information changes.

I've found this ai to be one of the better at scraping information that is the least biased. It even scrapes government sites and law sites for info.


https://www.perplexity.ai/search/is-there-evidence-that-obama-c-mQiqVyRXTuKP5DFSwbk58w

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/how-do-the-allegations-of-a-co-iKi55eiuSvG9NaibXPxWxw

https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/DIG/DIG-Declassified-Evidence-Obama-Subvert-President-Trump-2016-Victory-Election-July2025.pdf

[neurosis]

however, you are proving my point. What they did to handcuff Trump's first term is terrible, and you don't seem outraged by the fact that Obama directed intelligence agencies to create false reports and then, leak them to the press in order to turn the middle against him.

I don't see anything to be "outraged" by. This isn't some treasonous act though fox news would have you believe that it was.

The way I see this, is if Obama broke the law, then prosecute him and put him in jail.

I don't care for the way either party interferes in elections, and they both do it.

There was a reason that Trump had 100's of mail sorting machines removed from post offices before the 2020 election.  I didn't see anyone in here complaining about that.  So yea, you do have a point.

[neurosis]

https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/DIG/DIG-Declassified-Evidence-Obama-Subvert-President-Trump-2016-Victory-Election-July2025.pdf

I downloaded those two days ago.

[Newbeeee™]

Republicans were the main ones pushing this conspiracy

Saywot? Conspiracy? Whatabout the girls who spoke out? The vid footage of New York? Queen coughing up a few mill etc?
Conspiracy?
 

[neurosis]

Saywot? Conspiracy?

Yea, we should probably stop using that term in the case of Epstein.

[beej]

Saywot? Conspiracy? Whatabout the girls who spoke out? The vid footage of New York? Queen coughing up a few mill etc?
Conspiracy?
 

there has to be some truth in order for a good conspiracy to fly. And I don't think that anybody doubts Prince Andrew's involvement in this.

[Newbeeee™]

there has to be some truth in order for a good conspiracy to fly. And I don't think that anybody doubts Prince Andrew's involvement in this.

Then it's not a conspiracy....

[beej]

Then it's not a conspiracy....

well just because Prince Andrew was involved doesn't mean that Tom Hanks was involved. It's not hard to imagine Bill Gates being involved but it's harder to picture Stephen Hawking,s involvement. So you see, there might be some truth but just because some famous people were involved doesn't mean that all of hollywood and every single billionaire or elitist was going there.

[Newbeeee™]

it's harder to picture Stephen Hawking,s involvement.

There's photos of him at party's on the island with girls all around him....allegedly....

[beej]

There's photos of him at party's on the island with girls all around him....allegedly....

my daughter had a high school friend who went to prison after putting cameras in a girls locker room at a gym. there are pictures of me with him. He has been to my house, which is unnerving to say the least. I use to really like that kid. I had no idea he was doing stuff like this. But just because there are pictures of us doesn't mean that he and I are the same.