How is your comfort level with moving nuclear subs?

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Quote from: gcode on August 04, 2025, 09:04 AMSaddam's invasion of Kuwait
Point of order Sir :lol:
It's well documented that the UK "encouraged" Saddam to invade Kuwait for regime change (colour revolution Baby!) assuring him "we've got your back".
And then the doublecross standing back when he did it....all part of the overall plan for the area  :htu:
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Quote from: neurosis on August 04, 2025, 09:03 AMThat's true. But I wouldn't want to find out the hard way.

I've read that the US was at one point, developing something similar, but without the auto-launch capability. According to at least one of the documents I've read on the Russian system, they've modified it to require some kind of human interaction.

I guess take all of that with a grain of salt. 
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An article on it.

https://www.military.com/history/russias-dead-hand-soviet-built-nuclear-doomsday-device.html

Pepperidge Farms remembers Ronald Wilson wasn't suffering Russian fools. He went at them HARD. I think Trump is taking it easier on them than Reagan did.

Until we start doing nuke detonation drills in school like we did in the 80's we don;t have anything to worry about. It's just sabre rattling.

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Quote from: Newbeeee™ on August 04, 2025, 09:28 AMPoint of order Sir :lol:
It's well documented that the UK "encouraged" Saddam to invade Kuwait for regime change (colour revolution Baby!) assuring him "we've got your back".
This I did not know. 

I always wondered how he thought things were going to go in his favor when he invaded Kuwait.
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Quote from: CNCAppsJames on August 04, 2025, 08:20 PMPepperidge Farms remembers Ronald Wilson wasn't suffering Russian fools. He went at them HARD. I think Trump is taking it easier on them than Reagan did.

The reading I've doing on AA in the last few weeks covered a lot of Reagan's rhetoric, including the "Star Wars" SDI bluff. (Dead hand is not only more plausible, but a hell of a lot more possible than SDI)

After Reagan realized how close he brought us to nuclear war, he drastically lowered the temperature of his rhetoric. I don't know what goes on behind closed doors, but publicly, Trump likes to make threats and when his bluff is called, he doesn't become more reasonable. He's like a cat that is backed in to a corner.

Do you think that Trump has it in him to know when he's going too far?

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on August 04, 2025, 08:24 PMThis I did not know.

I tried to look that up and found no evidence that it was true.

I'd like to see the "well documented" documents on this. I've never heard it either.
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

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Quote from: CNCAppsJames on August 04, 2025, 08:24 PMThis I did not know.

I always wondered how he thought things were going to go in his favor when he invaded Kuwait.
LoLz @ chatgpt - it went from absolutely no, definitely not at all, to this.

What is indisputable is that, in the lead-up to Kuwait's invasion, the UK maintained deep economic and diplomatic engagement with Saddam's Iraq—despite known risks. That pattern of engagement, combined with ambiguous or delayed government responses, may well have contributed indirectly to Saddam's calculations. But it does not amount to verified evidence that London actively encouraged or greenlit the invasion.


I remembered something about territory - apparently he had long-standing claims that Kuwait was historically part of Iraq, a belief dating back to Ottoman times and early 20th-century British colonial decisions.
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Quote from: Newbeeee™ on August 05, 2025, 01:55 AMearly 20th-century British colonial decisions

Limey cunts drew the borders for long-term instability and maximum civil unrest in the middle east. And that's even before Israel, so you can't even blame them for masterminding that time.

Everyone: "Kurds, Sunnis AND Shia at this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the world, localized entirely within one country? Can I see it?"

Sykes-Picot: "No"
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Intel leak from inside France as well ~Jul 26/27th, also submarines, allegedly 1TB data stolen, pertains to the communications systems, security systems, and targeting systems if I recall properly. Wild few weeks in defence leaks

gcode

Quote from: mkd on August 05, 2025, 09:38 AMhttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-says-it-stole-intel-from-the-russian-navy-and-found-weak-points-in-its-newest-nuclear-missile-submarine/ar-AA1JSLrda ???
:-[

Ukraine has been beating the Russian Navy like a rented mule since the opening days of the war.
Not to shabby for a country that has no navy.
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