Dead man walking

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Incogneeto

Quote from: YoDoug on August 22, 2025, 12:31 PMI'm fine with that, if that is to be his sentence. If we want to send criminals to El Salvadoran prisons out of our jurisdiction then so be it. At home though, we need law and order. That includes in the corrections portion of the justice system.

I'm being very very careful Doug.

Had that been your Daughter?

Incogneeto

This Smarmy little murdering fuck thinks he can play the system and he has.

Imagine being her Father.

Instead of putting myself in Societies shoes.

I put myself in His.

Famous Quote. "I don't care a Gnats Penis"

Did you also hear he complained about his Vegan Plate?

That's not against your beliefs. But who the fuck gives a shit what he is served?

There were 4 victims.

YoDoug

Quote from: Incogneeto on August 22, 2025, 01:44 PMI'm being very very careful Doug.

Had that been your Daughter?

I don't think you get what I am saying. I'm not against tougher or harsher sentences. I'm against unregulated jailhouse justice. If we decide as a society that someone that commits a heinous crime deserves heinous punishment, then so be it, administer justice. Otherwise uphold the law.
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Incogneeto

Quote from: YoDoug on August 22, 2025, 02:04 PMI don't think you get what I am saying. I'm not against tougher or harsher sentences. I'm against unregulated jailhouse justice. If we decide as a society that someone that commits a heinous crime deserves heinous punishment, then so be it, administer justice. Otherwise uphold the law.

I do Understand.

You didn't answer the question.

And you and I both know the answer.

neurosis

Quote from: YoDoug on August 22, 2025, 02:04 PMI don't think you get what I am saying. I'm not against tougher or harsher sentences. I'm against unregulated jailhouse justice. If we decide as a society that someone that commits a heinous crime deserves heinous punishment, then so be it, administer justice. Otherwise uphold the law.

Our prison system isn't built to rehabilitate, its built to punish.  Should that be changed?   
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

neurosis

They're not teaching people how to be better citizens in our prisons. They're teaching them how to be better criminals. 
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I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Incogneeto

Sorry I Looked.

You're an Idiot.

4 lifetime sentences??

Rehabilitate??

He killed 4 kids.

He will die in Prison.

Pppppfffft. ::)  ::)


MIL-TFP-41

Quote from: YoDoug on August 22, 2025, 11:39 AMWhile I think he deserves every bit of it, it is not his sentence. As a society if we believe he needs to be raped, beaten, and tortured then that should be his sentence. Otherwise prisoners need to be kept safe.

He is being kept safe. Sure the other prisoners are doing psychological torture, though I would have a tough time thinking that every prisoner that gets that treatment should get their own, isolated, soundproof cell. I did read he is bitching about not getting a proper vegan diet. Once again, I would have a tough time accommodating this dipshit for that. Should the prison system be responsible for every different diet in the world? How about if he followed a strict carnivore diet?



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Incogneeto

Before I start crying.

Let's try the same in a few other countries.

I think you will find The U.S.of A. is very lenient.

I've seen much worse conditions for Violent offenders.

And let's get this straight.

This coward stalked unarmed college age students and planned their murder.

Your defense of that is even more appalling.

Incogneeto

Quote from: MIL-TFP-41 on August 22, 2025, 02:31 PMHe is being kept safe. Sure the other prisoners are doing psychological torture, though I would have a tough time thinking that every prisoner that gets that treatment should get their own, isolated, soundproof cell. I did read he is bitching about not getting a proper vegan diet. Once again, I would have a tough time accommodating this dipshit for that. Should the prison system be responsible for every different diet in the world? How about if he followed a strict carnivore diet?





Oh Poo!! Poo!!

How can we rehabilitate him if we don't seek his whims???

I would like a Steak!! With a very large Knife to cut it with!!

And a side of someone's Daughter.

I would give him Cream of Wheat.

Every meal Every day. No Butter , No salt.

Just enough to keep him alive.

No Flavor , No Change.

mowens

Nobody is defending him; he is not there for rehabilitation.
There is a constitutional amendment against cruel and unusual punishment.
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Incogneeto

Quote from: mowens on August 22, 2025, 03:53 PMNobody is defending him; he is not there for rehabilitation.
There is a constitutional amendment against cruel and unusual punishment.

Doesn't say a damn thing about. My special food or I don't like the noise.

Your definition against mine.

Ask the 4 kids what was cruel and unusual. Ask the parents.

He has 23 hours a day to dance in his cell.

He can talk to his Mom and sister. They can't.

Incogneeto

He admitted he did it. What don't you get?

CNCAppsJames

Quote from: mowens on August 22, 2025, 03:53 PMThere is a constitutional amendment against cruel and unusual punishment.
There's nothing about cruel OR unusual. There's a difference, AND that difference has been upheld in courts.

They can be cruel. They can be unusual. They CANNOT be both. One or the other.

Jailhouse justice IS NOT unusual, but it is nearly always cruel.

Semantics matter, ESPECIALLY in the legal realm.

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mowens

Quote from: Incogneeto on August 22, 2025, 04:19 PMHe admitted he did it. What don't you get?

That's why he got 4 life sentences.
"I would gladly risk feeling bad at times if it also meant that I could taste my dessert." - Data