Another school shooting.

Started by Del., September 04, 2024, 09:53 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

RobertELee

Quote from: JParis on September 08, 2024, 09:37 AMSide note, since the background check system went live, there have been FAR MORE shootings than all the time before the system ever existed.

Nothing a few more laws can't fix.  :ball:
Funny Funny x 2 View List

TSmcam

Quote from: neurosis on September 06, 2024, 06:34 AMDidn't they ban firearms in Australia?


No, I think it was just semi automatic weapons. That was a result of the Port Arthur shootings.

I'm curious, what are the rules/laws in the USA regarding storage of firearms? Down here by law, firearms have to be locked in a gun safe at all times, with the ammunition stored seperately. I assume different states have different rules regarding this? Or is there no defined rules for storage?

For us to purchase and own firearms, you need a firearms license, which has seperate categories (Cat A, B, C etc etc). As part of the licensing process, the applicant is interviewed by the Police, as is the applicants spouse.

I've been meaning to get off my butt and apply for a firearms license, because I want to own and shoot a pistol. There are a few more hoops to get through to do that (Cat B license), but it is worth it if you really want to own a pistol here.
CNC Softwares own 'lil piece of Poison Ivy.
TopSolid for the Win :)

Del.

Quote from: TSmcam on September 08, 2024, 01:34 PMNo, I think it was just semi automatic weapons. That was a result of the Port Arthur shootings.

I'm curious, what are the rules/laws in the USA regarding storage of firearms? Down here by law, firearms have to be locked in a gun safe at all times, with the ammunition stored seperately. I assume different states have different rules regarding this? Or is there no defined rules for storage?

For us to purchase and own firearms, you need a firearms license, which has seperate categories (Cat A, B, C etc etc). As part of the licensing process, the applicant is interviewed by the Police, as is the applicants spouse.

I've been meaning to get off my butt and apply for a firearms license, because I want to own and shoot a pistol. There are a few more hoops to get through to do that (Cat B license), but it is worth it if you really want to own a pistol here.

You'll shoot yer eye out! 
Funny Funny x 2 View List

TSmcam

Quote from: Del. on September 08, 2024, 01:50 PMYou'll shoot yer eye out! 

LOL, yeah, nah. I've fired a few pistols down here. I seemed to be pretty capable of pointing them in the right direction :)
Like Like x 1 View List
CNC Softwares own 'lil piece of Poison Ivy.
TopSolid for the Win :)

Del.

Quote from: TSmcam on September 08, 2024, 02:03 PMLOL, yeah, nah. I've fired a few pistols down here. I seemed to be pretty capable of pointing them in the right direction :)

I once hit the side of a barn.
Funny Funny x 3 View List

JParis

Quote from: TSmcam on September 08, 2024, 01:34 PMI'm curious, what are the rules/laws in the USA regarding storage of firearms? Down here by law, firearms have to be locked in a gun safe at all times, with the ammunition stored seperately. I assume different states have different rules regarding this? Or is there no defined rules for storage?

For us to purchase and own firearms, you need a firearms license, which has seperate categories (Cat A, B, C etc etc). As part of the licensing process, the applicant is interviewed by the Police, as is the applicants spouse.

I've been meaning to get off my butt and apply for a firearms license, because I want to own and shoot a pistol. There are a few more hoops to get through to do that (Cat B license), but it is worth it if you really want to own a pistol here.

State laws very widely on storage laws, they run the gamut from locked when not in use to no laws at all.

As far as buying, much the same,  vary widely from tough to get to now laws at all.

Here in NH any person who is not prohibited, ie, convicted felon, can purchase and carry a firearms Background checks are required by law,  except in the case of private sales and in those cases you are "supposed" to know the buyer. All that said,  this state is one of the top safe states in the county. 


Like Like x 2 View List

TSmcam

Quote from: JParis on September 08, 2024, 02:50 PMState laws very widely on storage laws, they run the gamut from locked when not in use to no laws at all.

As far as buying, much the same,  vary widely from tough to get to now laws at all.

Here in NH any person who is not prohibited, ie, convicted felon, can purchase and carry a firearms Background checks are required by law,  except in the case of private sales and in those cases you are "supposed" to know the buyer. All that said,  this state is one of the top safe states in the county. 




I just read up on our licensing.

For the checks, the Police interview the spouse, or a relative living with the individual. And they also interview a non relative, not living with the individual, but someone who has known the individual for a given length of time. Basically two referees, one being a spouse/relative.

That was a major Police failure of the licensing for the Mosque shooter. The police interviewed his two referees, and they were both people he knew through an online chatroom.
CNC Softwares own 'lil piece of Poison Ivy.
TopSolid for the Win :)

JParis

Quote from: TSmcam on September 08, 2024, 03:10 PMI just read up on our licensing.

For the checks, the Police interview the spouse, or a relative living with the individual. And they also interview a non relative, not living with the individual, but someone who has known the individual for a given length of time. Basically two referees, one being a spouse/relative.

That was a major Police failure of the licensing for the Mosque shooter. The police interviewed his two referees, and they were both people he knew through an online chatroom.

Before NH passed what is refered to as, "Constitutional carry" about 4 years ago,  the application did have a page for personalreferences.  I know none of mine were ever contacted and I'm unaware of anyone whose references were contacted.

Criminal background was always the biggest thing.
Like Like x 1 View List

CNCAppsJames

Utah's firearms laws are pretty relaxed... as long as you don't do do stupid stuff. Do stupid stuff and they'll throw the book at you.

Storage in a gun safe is reccommend but not required. There is I think a $350 tax break offered for those who purchase a gun safe through the end of the year. If a child or prohibited person gets hold of your firearm... see the stupid stuff provision. :rofl:

I don't think there is a private party transfer here, however, you can go to a local firearms dealer, pay a $7.50 fee for the ATF background check and walk out 20-ish minutes later with a firearm. At least that was how long it was for me.

Like John said, every state is different.

There isn't anything I can't own here. I'm just supposed to abide by Federal restrictions. I own suppressors, sale of those are governed by the tyrant scum at the ATF. Same with full auto and short barrel rifles.

Glad I escaped to a free state after 5+ decades of Constitution hating tyranny and oppression  in The People's Republik of Kommieforniastan.

:coffee:
"That bill for your 80's experience...yeah, it's coming due. Soon." Author Unknown

Inventor Pro 2026 - CAD
CAMplete TruePath 2026 - CAV and Post Processing
Fusion360 and Mastercam 2026 - CAM

CNCAppsJames

Oh yeah... Utah is also a Constitutional Carry state.  However of you choose to get a Concealed Carry permit, it affords you some perks; more places you can carry, faster background checks on firearms and NFA purchases (SBR's, FA weapons, Supressors, etc...).
"That bill for your 80's experience...yeah, it's coming due. Soon." Author Unknown

Inventor Pro 2026 - CAD
CAMplete TruePath 2026 - CAV and Post Processing
Fusion360 and Mastercam 2026 - CAM

JParis

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on September 08, 2024, 04:03 PMOh yeah... Utah is also a Constitutional Carry state.  However of you choose to get a Concealed Carry permit, it affords you some perks; more places you can carry, faster background checks on firearms and NFA purchases (SBR's, FA weapons, Supressors, etc...).

Same with NH...I still maintain mine because of the reciprocity with many states but most importantly to me, Maine. 

You can carry concealed in Maine without a license,  however if you have an encounter with LE you are bound to let them know you're carrying. With a permit, you have no duty to report.

VT you can carry.

The state to my immediate south is the Socialist Republic of Taxachusetts. They offer no reciprocity with ANY other state.
Like Like x 1 View List

JParis

#131
And that's another reason why national reciprocity needs to happen.  As someone who travels between several states,  it is incumbent upon the individual to know and remember the laws in each jurisdiction.


When I held a Federal Firearms License,  do you know what it granted me?

Nothing but the right to buy & sell firearms based on the ATF laws and rules. For the governmental colonoscopy I had to go through...

That's it.
Thank  You Thank You x 1 View List

gcode

Quote from: Del. on September 08, 2024, 02:27 PMI once hit the side of a barn.
True, but you were inside the barn at the time.
Like Like x 1 Funny Funny x 4 View List

CNCAppsJames

"National Reciprocity"... 😍

I wish. 

I can't carry in Kommieforniastan anymore... because I'm not a resident. I "can" get on in Oregon, but only if I apply in a 2a friendly county (which is no issue... my biggest customer is in one), AND they want to let you Schedule an interview...  Scheduling has been a bitch though. 
"That bill for your 80's experience...yeah, it's coming due. Soon." Author Unknown

Inventor Pro 2026 - CAD
CAMplete TruePath 2026 - CAV and Post Processing
Fusion360 and Mastercam 2026 - CAM

ghuns

Quote from: JParis on September 07, 2024, 07:33 AMSo what's changed?

It's not the availability of firearms....

Here's a hint, it's people....

The ubiquity of SSRI and SNRI drugs.
Thank  You Thank You x 1 View List