Covid Vaccine

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Dan_AKA_ROY23

#375
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=10536 time=1620054659 user_id=58
Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 post_id=10532 time=1620052711 user_id=82
Quote from: JFord post_id=10525 time=1620044579 user_id=140The mortality rate in India is quite stable at just over 1%.

https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid?country=CAN~USA~GBR~ESP~ISR~NZL~IND~AUS">https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-ri ... ZL~IND~AUS">https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid?country=CAN~USA~GBR~ESP~ISR~NZL~IND~AUS


Don't trust the India data. The numbers in crematoriums and grave-sites (Hindu's cremate their dead, Muslims bury them) suggests the fatalities are much higher. India government doesn't want to look bad, considering they were touting how well they were handling the pandemic compared to other nations. If a person dies from COVID but wasn't officially tested positive (wasn't tested at all), they don't count it as a COVID related death.

Lack of testing a big problem there. Plus, vaccine rollout struggling. To date, vaccines there are not free like here and most western nations. They cost about the average month's wage and many simply cannot afford it. It's either get the vaccine or don't eat.


If the recorded data shows a 1% fatality rate of positive tested, then you can't say it is worse because of lack of testing. It may be worse, it may the same, or it may be less. If they could test every case or even every person they may find a much larger segment of the population with medium/mild cases or even asymptomatic cases.


The amount of corpses piling up suggests the data is faulty. Young people dying, which is concerning. It is a LOT worse in India right now than what is being reported. You have to find first hand eyewitness accounts who are not pro Modi. I posted a good (troubling) article here. Look for it.

(I found it)

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/apr/28/crime-against-humanity-arundhati-roy-india-covid-catastrophe?utm_source=pocket-newtab">https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/a ... ket-newtab">https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/apr/28/crime-against-humanity-arundhati-roy-india-covid-catastrophe?utm_source=pocket-newtab

Dan_AKA_ROY23

#376
Pfizer announced it submitted application for COVID vaccine to India months ago.....

.... India sat on it. Did nothing.

gcode

#377
Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 post_id=10539 time=1620055363 user_id=82Pfizer announced it submitted application for COVID vaccine to India months ago.....

.... India sat on it. Did nothing.


India is one of the most corrupt places on the planet.
The application is no doubt languishing on some pols desk waiting for the proper bribes
application fees to be paid.

YoDoug

#378
Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 post_id=10538 time=1620055075 user_id=82
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=10536 time=1620054659 user_id=58
Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 post_id=10532 time=1620052711 user_id=82Don't trust the India data. The numbers in crematoriums and grave-sites (Hindu's cremate their dead, Muslims bury them) suggests the fatalities are much higher. India government doesn't want to look bad, considering they were touting how well they were handling the pandemic compared to other nations. If a person dies from COVID but wasn't officially tested positive (wasn't tested at all), they don't count it as a COVID related death.

Lack of testing a big problem there. Plus, vaccine rollout struggling. To date, vaccines there are not free like here and most western nations. They cost about the average month's wage and many simply cannot afford it. It's either get the vaccine or don't eat.


If the recorded data shows a 1% fatality rate of positive tested, then you can't say it is worse because of lack of testing. It may be worse, it may the same, or it may be less. If they could test every case or even every person they may find a much larger segment of the population with medium/mild cases or even asymptomatic cases.


The amount of corpses piling up suggests the data is faulty. Young people dying, which is concerning. It is a LOT worse in India right now than what is being reported. You have to find first hand eyewitness accounts who are not pro Modi. I posted a good (troubling) article here. Look for it.

(I found it)

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/apr/28/crime-against-humanity-arundhati-roy-india-covid-catastrophe?utm_source=pocket-newtab">https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/a ... ket-newtab">https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/apr/28/crime-against-humanity-arundhati-roy-india-covid-catastrophe?utm_source=pocket-newtab


I'm not saying I don't believe that it could be worse than reported. I'm just saying that "eyewitness" accounts are anecdotal. Without data to back it up, it is just opinion. That being said, India is a huge population with the largest number of poor people in the world. They regularly see diseases that are easily treated in wealthier countries reek havoc. They could very well see a larger number of Covid deaths per capita than the rest of the world. With those kinds of numbers they could easily be the incubating grounds for a new deadlier Covid variant.

TylerBeer

#379
Death rate is usually a few weeks behind infection rate - I wouldn't be surprised to see that number start going up after this week

Dan_AKA_ROY23

#380
Really good numbers coming in (excluding India). Cases and deaths way down in the U.S.

U.K and Israel each recorded 1 new death. Very few cases. Both nations vaccinated at high rates. Vaccines working combined with (hopefully) the Virus running out of steam. Time will tell.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/">https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Look at U.S, U.K, and Israel numbers. Very positive sign!

Dan_AKA_ROY23

#381
Quote from: Newbeeee™ post_id=10547 time=1620059021 user_id=157Which is only piling on the fear spread to its UK audience, to continue the fear because no one is dying in the  UK anymore...and they need to keep the fear to keep lockdown going...



Why is that? No one dying in U.K anymore??? (just 1 new death recorded today) Maybe because U.K. is a heavily vaccinated nation?

thad

#382
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=10531 time=1620050338 user_id=58
Quote from: JFord post_id=10527 time=1620047872 user_id=140
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=10526 time=1620047682 user_id=58I linked to this article in the Nutrition discussion thread on Friday because it details how the gut biome and immune system are interconnected and vary based on diet. However it also has good info about how our body's immune system works and how it remembers previous pathogens it has encountered.

https://neurohacker.com/how-the-gut-microbiota-influences-our-immune-system">https://neurohacker.com/how-the-gut-mic ... une-system">https://neurohacker.com/how-the-gut-microbiota-influences-our-immune-system


Most of the new diabetes treatments focus on the gut as well.


For nearly 20 years I suffered recurring heartburn. I was stuck using Omeprazole or other meds on a regular basis. I tried to get off it because I was worried about the long term effects. Even once I switched my diet to more plant based, I still struggled to get off of it. Then a year or so ago I got my gut bacteria tested. One of the bacteria I was deficient in is directly related stomach acid production. I took targeted probiotics for several months, then began to ween myself off of the omeprazole. It has been over 6 months of not having to take anything for heartburn. I have also stopped worrying about counting calories. As long as I eat plant based I eat as much as I want and I don't gain any weight. I attribute that to fixing my gut biome as much as diet helping.


What type of test checks gut bacteria?
Using MC2023

YoDoug

#383
Quote from: thad post_id=10660 time=1620156602 user_id=54
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=10531 time=1620050338 user_id=58
Quote from: JFord post_id=10527 time=1620047872 user_id=140Most of the new diabetes treatments focus on the gut as well.


For nearly 20 years I suffered recurring heartburn. I was stuck using Omeprazole or other meds on a regular basis. I tried to get off it because I was worried about the long term effects. Even once I switched my diet to more plant based, I still struggled to get off of it. Then a year or so ago I got my gut bacteria tested. One of the bacteria I was deficient in is directly related stomach acid production. I took targeted probiotics for several months, then began to ween myself off of the omeprazole. It has been over 6 months of not having to take anything for heartburn. I have also stopped worrying about counting calories. As long as I eat plant based I eat as much as I want and I don't gain any weight. I attribute that to fixing my gut biome as much as diet helping.


What type of test checks gut bacteria?


I took the test below. There are other companies that do it as well. Every year science learns more and more ways the gut biome is connected to health and disease.

https://www.thryveinside.com/">https://www.thryveinside.com/

Here's Johnny!

#384
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-05-05/scientists-see-how-the-coronavirus-can-take-over-the-brain">https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2 ... -the-brain">https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-05-05/scientists-see-how-the-coronavirus-can-take-over-the-brain

Dan_AKA_ROY23

#385
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/10/india/rahul-vohra-dies-india-covid-scli-intl/?hpt=ob_blogfooterold">https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/10/india/ra ... gfooterold">https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/10/india/rahul-vohra-dies-india-covid-scli-intl/?hpt=ob_blogfooterold

Actor, blogger, known for short, comedic videos on Facebook & Twitter. Criticized his treatment at India hospital up until his death from COVID-19. Healthy. Age 35.

TylerBeer

#386
Cue Newb with the conspiracy

YoDoug

#387
Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 post_id=10909 time=1620752891 user_id=82https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/10/india/rahul-vohra-dies-india-covid-scli-intl/?hpt=ob_blogfooterold">https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/10/india/ra ... gfooterold">https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/10/india/rahul-vohra-dies-india-covid-scli-intl/?hpt=ob_blogfooterold

Actor, blogger, known for short, comedic videos on Facebook & Twitter. Criticized his treatment at India hospital up until his death from COVID-19. Healthy. Age 35.


Where are you getting the "healthy" from. That article doesn't say a thing about his general health. A quick google doesn't bring up anything either.

pmartin

#388
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=10911 time=1620753491 user_id=58
Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 post_id=10909 time=1620752891 user_id=82https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/10/india/rahul-vohra-dies-india-covid-scli-intl/?hpt=ob_blogfooterold">https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/10/india/ra ... gfooterold">https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/10/india/rahul-vohra-dies-india-covid-scli-intl/?hpt=ob_blogfooterold

Actor, blogger, known for short, comedic videos on Facebook & Twitter. Criticized his treatment at India hospital up until his death from COVID-19. Healthy. Age 35.


Where are you getting the "healthy" from. That article doesn't say a thing about his general health. A quick google doesn't bring up anything either.


So amend it to say relatively healthy.

Was alive, now dead.

JParis

#389
I'm thoroughly amazed by how many seem to have become doctors