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Quote from: neurosis on April 25, 2025, 02:58 PMIt's just the complete bullshit amount of horseshit misinformation that turns me off. 
So you're saying it's safe and effective then.... :rolleyes:
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Quote from: Newbeeee™ on April 25, 2025, 03:06 PMSo you're saying it's safe and effective then.... :rolleyes:

I'm saying that if you don't know what you're talking about, you shouldn't be giving advise.

Have I ever told anyone that it's "save and effective"?  Have I ever given vax advise to anyone?
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And I mean in either direction.  Get it , or don't.
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Quote from: neurosis on April 25, 2025, 02:58 PMNo it isn't.  You can look up why. The video I posted tells you why. And you don't have to take his word for it. He gives you the info to look it up for yourself.

This is something that I would agree with you on, but only because of what we know now.

I'm not a covid vax pusher.  I hope you don't see it as that?

It's just the complete bullshit amount of horseshit misinformation that turns me off. 
I never saw you as a vax pusher. :)

My point is, the LONG term affects are unknown. 5, 10, 15, 20 years down the road.

Will these people's offspring end up being like Agent Orange kids? You know... kids of Vietnam vets that suffer from infertility, vision impairment, birth defects, krone's disease, etc... ad infinitum  at MUCH higher rates than the normal population.

He can produce a MOUNTAIN of evidence for whatever the fuck he wants. It can be backed up by whatever. You know what he can't produce? A fucking crystal ball!

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Quote from: CNCAppsJames on April 25, 2025, 03:16 PMMy point is, the LONG term affects are unknown. 5, 10, 15, 20 years down the road.

I don't think that anyone can disagree with that? 
Quote from: CNCAppsJames on April 25, 2025, 03:16 PMHe can produce a MOUNTAIN of evidence for whatever the fuck he wants. It can be backed up by whatever. You know what he can't produce? A fucking crystal ball!

That's kind of the point.

Not to pick on Newb, but one of the links he posted was to a comment made by someone who cited a study that was presented by someone who refused to show the source. It's impossible to research a hidden study.  Not to pick on Newb again, but one of the twitter links he posted in the past, was to a guy who had an unbelievable amount of information.  The problem was, if you tried to double check anything that he posted, literally everything that he cited was links to information that he posted.  There was no way to refute anything he said because everything came from him. 

You can't research that way. 

And yea, everything we've read or seen up to this point is frozen in time.  It will more than likely change. Or maybe not?  I just think that it's important to be careful when we're researching anything health related. :shrug: 


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I think we also need to change our default "settings". Oh, the doctor says I should get this injection. The default is here's my arm/ass/whatever. 

Instead we should asking questions. What are potential side effects? How long has this been on the market. Do I have any recourse if bad shit happens? What's the guaranteed upside? What's the probable downside? Just because a doctor says it's safe doesn't mean it is. Remember, doctors used to say smoking was safe. They are not infallible. They should be questioned, and ANY doctor worth their salt welcomes it. Maybe the doc just took the pharmaceutical rep's word for it... like they did with Oxy. That shit was recent!

I'm wary enough of taking pills. Injections... yeah, I'm asking a LOT of questions.

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Quote from: neurosis on April 25, 2025, 03:26 PMYou can't research that way.
Surely you realise by now, that MSM are taking the piss? It is virtually impossible to now research anything to do with convid, becuase 5 years have passed and there's so many "cited reports" for everything and every outcome. Wherever you now look, it's everything else's fault because "it" (jab) is safe and effective.
I posted earlier the Daily Mail telling everyone that colon C is now because people eating lettuce.
The only way to deal with this, is look at the risk (a cold), and take 3 steps back and look at everything post 2021.
Something has caused a crap-ton of deaths and ongoing problems.
And I really don't think it's lettuce....
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Quote from: CNCAppsJames on April 25, 2025, 03:36 PM'm wary enough of taking pills. Injections... yeah, I'm asking a LOT of questions.

Yea, I hate medications. 

My doctor gave me something for high blood pressure recently. It's the first med I've ever been on.  It makes my arms fall asleep.  lol.

I'm super suspicious of every medication but I suspect that at some point, I'm going to have to trust someone.
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Quote from: Newbeeee™ on April 25, 2025, 03:42 PMSurely you realise by now, that MSM are taking the piss?

You don't have to rely on the MSM anymore?

Reaching thousands of research papers and people who know how to decipher them is really easy today. 
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Quote from: neurosis on April 25, 2025, 04:12 PMYou don't have to rely on the MSM anymore?

Reaching thousands of research papers and people who know how to decipher them is really easy today. 

YehBut MSM = Trusted sauce. Just ask the pair of resident cocks Bucky and Smit :rolleyes:

I repeat post #10 in another thread....and I really don't think it's got better in the last 10 years....

I can't help returning to the Lancet Editor Richard Horton, who reported in June 2015:-
"Much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest....

Edit - remember all the BS About masks - oh they work etc :rolleyes:
And all the BS in front of the cameras.
Everything, is bullshit.
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Quote from: neurosis on April 25, 2025, 04:10 PMYea, I hate medications. 

My doctor gave me something for high blood pressure recently. It's the first med I've ever been on.  It makes my arms fall asleep.  lol.

I'm super suspicious of every medication but I suspect that at some point, I'm going to have to trust someone.
I take 1 pill... for high blood pressure.  I like my coffee too much. :rofl:

Small price to pay for the joy it gives me. The juice is definitely worth the squeeze.  :rofl:

Oh I take drops for glaucoma. That runs in the family. 

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Quote from: CNCAppsJames on April 26, 2025, 10:04 AMI take 1 pill... for high blood pressure.  I like my coffee too much.

I have a pretty good blood pressure tester at home and use it often.  I've tested my BP pre and post coffee.  It raises my BP by at least 10 points. lol. 

I have the same addiction.
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I take 7 medications in the morning and 9 at night. Some are repeats. My biggest fear is outliving my family. So far everything is going to plan.
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Quote from: mowens on April 26, 2025, 11:07 AMI take 7 medications in the morning and 9 at night. Some are repeats. My biggest fear is outliving my family. So far everything is going to plan.


My grandma lived to be almost 100.  She said that the worst thing about living that long, was outliving all of her children and friends.
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I take 7 pills a day for last 25 years.
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