Politicians being politicians.

[mowens]

Stupid stuff

So, the Democrats urge troops not to follow unlawful orders. Fairly innocuous, though a bit histrionic and probably intended to provoke Trump into doing stupid shit, in my opinion.

Trump, being Trump, freaks out over it and, instead of ignoring it like any sane person would, posts stupid shit, seeming to admit he's giving illegal orders to troops.

Then, even though no one has been executed for Treason since the early 1800s, Democrats, having been successful in provoking Trump, again become histrionic and pretend to be afraid of Trumps "death threats" in order to draw more attention to themselves.

It's as cringy as watching high schoolers performing "Death of a Salesman".

[Jeff]

Politicians urging 1.3 million service members to ignore lawful orders given by the Commander in Chief is a LOT more serious than the lefty media will acknowledge.
And those morons that said this I believe most of them did serve in the military.
IMO they need to lose their political position immediately, that's completely uncalled for.

[mowens]

"Politicians urging 1.3 million service members to ignore lawful orders given by the Commander in Chief is a LOT more serious than the lefty media will acknowledge."

That would be serious, but that didn't happen.

[Jeff]

"Politicians urging 1.3 million service members to ignore lawful orders given by the Commander in Chief is a LOT more serious than the lefty media will acknowledge."

That would be serious, but that didn't happen.

No, they said "illegal orders".
They worded it very carefully.

[Smit]

Bwahahahaha!! 

[mowens]

No, they said "illegal orders".
They worded it very carefully.

"No one has to carry out orders that violate the law, or our Constitution," they said. "Know that we have your back... don't give up the ship."

Seems pretty straightforward to me.
Spurious and unnecessary but straightforward.

This whole episode is stupid, all the way around. None of it is value added. It's all just whoring for attention.

Sorry I brought it up. It's slow at work today.

[Newbeeee™]

Word of the day is 'quockerwodger' (19th century): a puppet politician whose strings are pulled entirely by someone else.

They're all, quockerwodgers....

[SuperHoneyBadger]

Word of the day is 'quockerwodger' (19th century): a puppet politician whose strings are pulled entirely by someone else.

They're all, quockerwodgers....

FEKIN KWAKAWODGAS, TH'LOT

[jstell]

Politicians urging 1.3 million service members to ignore lawful orders given by the Commander in Chief is a LOT more serious than the lefty media will acknowledge.
And those morons that said this I believe most of them did serve in the military.

That would be serious, but that didn't happen.

No, they said "illegal orders".
They worded it very carefully.

Now that we've established Jeff can read and understand words in English...

They are speaking out because they did serve, and are pointing out they swore an oath to uphold the constitution.
And that means they have an obligation to not follow unlawful orders. 

Seems pretty straightforward to me.
Spurious and unnecessary but straightforward.

In response to nearly every deployment of the national guard to US cities (LA, Chicago, Portland, and most recently D.C.) being condemned as unlawful, I'm not so sure it's spurious and unnecessary to remind the troops and whoever else of their duty to uphold the constitution and not follow unlawful orders.
The commander in chief, sad as this is, continues to not give a shit about the laws of this nation, and his only use for the constitution seems to be using it to wipe his ass.
People following his directions got a lot of people arrested, tried, convicted after he lost the last election, I don't see a scenario where it works out better for his sycophants this time around.

[Jeff]

What orders has he given that were illegal?

[jstell]

Let's go back to calling Georgia looking for a few thousand votes.  That was an illegal request.  Let's go with Gulliani burning his career going along with it.  Never mind the dozen-plus other lawyers that have had consequences for going along with drumpf's illegalities.  https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/09/26/kenneth-chesebro-charged-in-wisconsin-here-are-all-the-former-trump-lawyers-now-facing-legal-consequences/

But more to the point and as stated directly above:

Every deployment of the national guard to US cities (LA, Chicago, Portland, and most recently D.C.) has been condemned as unlawful.

Remmediary reading lesson, one sentence.  Do you need me to put it all caps or a 24-pt font?  Or read it out loud and link to an mp4 for you?

[jstell]

And a lot of what ICE is doing has been illegal as well.

Warrantless arrests of US citizens, permanent green card holders with no criminal records, the list goes on.

[Jeff]

Every deployment of the national guard to US cities (LA, Chicago, Portland, and most recently D.C.) has been condemned as unlawful.

Because TDS. Trump made the decision.
If anyone doesn't support the cleaning up of those shithole cities and deport ILLEGAL ALIENS then you're a part of the problem.
The governors and mayors certainly aren't trying to keep these cities clean and lower crime, they NEED it.

If they had done their job, the NG and ICE wouldn't have to be deployed.

It's common sense really.

[Jeff]

And a lot of what ICE is doing has been illegal as well.

Warrantless arrests of US citizens, permanent green card holders with no criminal records, the list goes on.

Prove it. You say this like thousands of U.S. Citizens have been arrested, when in reality it's probably less than 10.

[Newbeeee™]

All the lockdown convid shit my 10 bucks says was illegal too.
In every country - it certainly was illegal in the UK.
But they all lockstepped, fell in line, and followed their orders.... for a good wage and pension....