MC 2026R2

[Here's Johnny!]

I might need a stronger prescription.

MC2026R2 Prescription not strong enough???

[TSmcam]

Meanwhile, I've been parked up in the corner, with my jar of cookies. Conme on over, the chocolate chip ones are great. Not to mention, my Mill-Turn functionality rocks 

[TSmcam]

for the first time in the same update that allows machine definitions to be read only (aka sell-able).

I guess it is no different to binned posts. Though a bit tough when you want make minor mods yourself but cant.

[Newbeeee™]

So i watched this vid and TBF - it does look very nice and logical in their new layout. I assume this is the reason why they never bothered to integrate legacy toolpaths into the new tab layout - because they go this way.
And I assume again, all toolpaths will be introduced into this...somewhen? 
I think the guy said "new tool library" so that's another re-write (5 since X5?) and if you go off maintenance and the everpath toolpaths are locked, does this lock the tool library - so you end up using the older one losing access to everpath tools or?

[Dylan Gondyke]

So i watched this vid and TBF - it does look very nice and logical in their new layout. I assume this is the reason why they never bothered to integrate legacy toolpaths into the new tab layout - because they go this way.
And I assume again, all toolpaths will be introduced into this...somewhen? 
I think the guy said "new tool library" so that's another re-write (5 since X5?) and if you go off maintenance and the everpath toolpaths are locked, does this lock the tool library - so you end up using the older one losing access to everpath tools or?

A new way to view and search the tool library in EverPath toolpaths, not a new tool library. I'm sensitive to a few friction points with tool selection in current toolpaths- small size, not resizeable, not easily searchable, no visual of what you selected, unclear boundaries between editing something that affects only the active toolpath vs editing something that affects all toolpaths using that tool (I'm looking at you, tool offset #'s and dia #'s.) So this was a lot of changes to try to address all those. We've added some buttons to that tool tab and made some minor language tweaks based on feedback from Technical Preview from Jstell and others, but still listening for more opinions.

Some of the things that make the experience a leap in more than just "put UI into panels" are coming alive now, with the constant and incremental toolpath recalculation bits in PB1. Toolpaths must be built from the ground-up to take advantage of this, multithreading, GPU calc, so it makes more sense for some toolpaths to target before others, but it's fair to say that we want to ensure that the UI is standardized around this when we introduce or rework toolpaths down the line.


Amazing that the ghost of JB haunts me 15 (20? oh gosh) years after I first had to ignore him as a green engineer on Solid Edge forums.

[neurosis]

Amazing that the ghost of JB haunts me 15 (20? oh gosh) years after I first had to ignore him as a green engineer on Solid Edge forums.

 

Some of us have been dealing with that turd since the 90s

Back to everpath - I like the fact that it uses any tool geometry imaginable. Is there any future plans to implement that in to other paths?  Not having the ability to utilize a double-sided chamfer tool in 2026 seems nuts to me.

[Dylan Gondyke]

 

Some of us have been dealing with that turd since the 90s

Back to everpath - I like the fact that it uses any tool geometry imaginable. Is there any future plans to implement that in to other paths?  Not having the ability to utilize a double-sided chamfer tool in 2026 seems nuts to me.

Well Deburr does support backside chamfering in 2027 now!

Definitely depends on the toolpath technology. Supporting any tool profile from the beginning was a goal of EverPath and took a significantly different approach to the tech. The dividends we can see in some of the early testing, where things like prototype Accelerated Finishing tools or custom-grind profiling tools for blades/etc just...work. Nothing for the user to do.

[Here's Johnny!]

All joking aside I think the EverPath technology has some real nice features and lots of possibilities.

[neurosis]

All joking aside I think the EverPath technology has some real nice features and lots of possibilities.

There are some things that I like about it. Locking it behind maintenance isn't one of them. I could see using this quite a bit if it weren't for that.

The shop owner has already expressed his displeasure with the rising cost of maintenance and has considered dropping it. That means I don't see the point in putting any time in to this unless something changes there.

[Here's Johnny!]

Locking it behind maintenance isn't one of them.

This is probably the biggest thing that will drag on its success IMHO.

[neurosis]

This is probably the biggest thing that will drag on its success IMHO.

The boss here has complained about maintenance before, and yet he still pays for it. It may not be as big of a hindrance as we think?  It's hard to say.

[Zoffen]

I'm off maintenence at the end of the year and I'm still on 2025. I don't see myself even looking at these paths because of the connect issue. If topsolid cannot do what I want in the full 5ax world I will probably bring on hypermill to fill the gap. I guess this will be an end of an era for me, I have been using mastercam since 2010.

[Zoffen]

The boss here has complained about maintenance before, and yet he still pays for it. It may not be as big of a hindrance as we think?  It's hard to say.

It's the devil you know mentality with CAD/$CAM....

[Here's Johnny!]

The boss here has complained about maintenance before, and yet he still pays for it. It may not be as big of a hindrance as we think?  It's hard to say.

First thing is when looking at costs is value for service. Are you getting timely information? Are you getting timely help when needed? Is the product performing well (in general)?

Second thing is does the cost fit into the business model (do you have enough sales to warrant the investment each year vs status quo)?

Predicting the future in business is tough....

[neurosis]

It's the devil you know mentality with CAD/$CAM....

Another way to look at it - when maintenance costs are too high with one, dropping it for a few years helps pay for a transition in to another.  cough TopSolid cough.