ICE agent fatally shoots woman

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jstell

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Quote from: Zoffen on January 08, 2026, 02:39 PMI'm just dumb. Please enlighten me... I need a list....
Dude, I'm not going to rail this thread down the rabbithole of why Kirk is about as disingenuous as Fucker Carlson.  Honest debate, HA!  Just a polemic skin sac lathering in rage-/click-bait.

I'd way rather tell another story about cops in bars.
Dude goes to the bathroom.  Someone takes his seat to sit down next to his brother at the bar.  Dude comes back, "You're in my seat."  "There's an empty one right next to this one, do you mind scooting down one so I can sit next to my brother instead of us talking over you?"  Grumbles, takes the empty stool.  Starts mumbling.  Guy that sat down asks "What?"  Dude says "I'm going to stab you."  "What"  "I'm gonna stab you."  "Whatever man, it's just a barstool. You can't be serious."  Dude keeps mumbling.  Dude stabs guy.
My attention is drawn by the thump as guy takes dude to the floor.  I run over, and his brother's telling him to stop.  I yell "Stop!"  (I am acquaintance with the brothers from seeing them around the neighborhood - I don't know the other dude.)  "He's got a knife!" as he's holding down the one wrist and elbow rising and fist falling like a blacksmith's power hammer, bouncing dude's head in the threshold of the doorway.  I get the knife.  Brother stops the elbow.  Dude has made a mistake.  Stabbed a guy that was former state golden glove boxing champion, and not that many years ago.
Cops are called.  Dude is stumbling around outside, leaning against the wall, as his one eye is going from kiwi to orange to grapefruit.  Lights flashing up the street and dude starts to try to stumble off.  Brother says hell no! and grabs him by his coat.  Cops immediately want to cuff the stabbed guy.  Brother starts losing it.  I'm telling them they need to arrest the other dude.  Guy tells brother to calm down and let them cuff him, because the cops literally told him they just want to cuff him while they get stuff sorted out, and he's kinda big and it makes them a bit nervous.  (There's like six of them already, and they're scared of one guy who's already been stabbed - do you see a pattern here?)  Of course more cops come and take statements from a few of us, and a couple ambulances come.  Several of us strongly recommend to the cops to send these guys off to different hospitals.
Found out later that they were a couple rooms down from each other on the same floor.  The guy's brother stayed with him for a while as he was being admitted.  Find out that he was lucky.  Stabbed right under the ribs on the side, with like a swiss army style of small knife, maybe 3" blade.  Didn't hit any organs, he's gonna be sore for a couple days.  Has to restrain brother from yelling at the fu?#ing cops when he sees them out in the hallway standing guard at the other dude's door.  And that dude really did pay for his mistake.  Charged with assault, sued for hospital bills, and lost the eye.

Enjoy...

Smit

It seemed pretty clear the ICE "officer" wanted to shoot somebody. He could have easily moved out of the way and had her arrested later if they were really that concerned about her actions.

No way that lady should be dead.

How is it different from street thugs when they shoot somebody for "he diesrespected me?"

And Kristi Noem calling her a "domestic terrorist" is despicable. Hardly a surprise though. :rolleyes:

And yes, he'll get away with it. That's just how it is in the cop world.


Zoffen

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I just had to look it up because i'm so dumb

Polemic: is contentious rhetoric intended to support a specific position by forthright claims and to undermine the opposing position. The practice of such argumentation is called polemics, which are seen in arguments on controversial topics. A person who writes polemics, or speaks polemically, is called a polemicist.

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I'm not joking i need a list.

Please provide evidence to the statement: "Kirk actively shit on peoples personal freedoms"

Please also define what "actively shit on peoples personal freedoms" actually means...

Details are important if you care about living in reality.

If you are fat and i tell you to stop drinking soda, am i "Actively shitting on a persons personal freedoms?"


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jstell

Quote from: Smit on January 08, 2026, 03:13 PMHow is it different from street thugs when they shoot somebody for "he diesrespected me?"

Same, but with different uniforms and gang signs.

Jane's Addiction : "1%"



All the people I know wanna be left alone
Some people I don't know?
They won't to leave you alone
I guess you gotta be
Just be just like them
Now the biggest gang
I know they call the government
And a gang is a weapon
That you trade your mind for
You gotta be just be just like them
Ya know
The gang and the government
No different
The gang and the government
No different
The gang and the government
No different
It makes me 1%
It makes me 1%
Oh God
Trouble comes down
Like a foot stepping heavy
Shake your fist at the bitch
Or wave your money
You gotta be right
You gotta be right
Don't be no
Supper for a big fish
With the big lip
And the over bite, bite
You gotta bite
All the people I know wanna be left alone
Some people I don't know?
They want to leave you alone
I guess you gotta be
Just be just like them
The gang and the government
Are no different
The gang and the government
No different
The gang and the government
No different
That makes me 1%
It makes me 1%
It makes me only 1%
That makes me 1%

jstell

Quote from: Zoffen on January 08, 2026, 03:22 PMDetails are important if you care about living in reality.
What's really important is turning off Fox News.  (And NewsMax, and Breitbart, and whatever platforms Steve Bannon and Fucker Carlson lie and feign outrage on now.)
Here's a funny AI moment:
prompt:  what show does that one dipshit former trump advisor have
response:  Several former Trump advisors and administration officials host media shows or appear as commentators. The person the user is likely referring to is Steve Bannon, who hosts the popular political podcast and video show, War Room.

The reason it is so absolutely hilarious to me, I wanted to include Bannon in my list above but couldn't remember his name. (a blissful memory blank - I almost wish I hadn't ruined it, but in the end worth it for this rich AI tidbit)

And just for fun, one of my favorite quotes from anyone, ever.  And how appropriate that it's a fictional character acting in the real world, kinda like Fox is a real character acting out a fictional world.

Then Miss Piggy jumps in: "It's almost as laughable as accusing Fox News as, you know, being news."
https://slate.com/culture/2012/01/muppets-hit-back-at-fox-news-miss-piggy-says-network-isn-t-news.html
https://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2011/12/05/are_the_muppets_communists_.html

TylerBeer

Quote from: Zoffen on January 08, 2026, 03:22 PMI just had to look it up because i'm so dumb

Polemic: is contentious rhetoric intended to support a specific position by forthright claims and to undermine the opposing position. The practice of such argumentation is called polemics, which are seen in arguments on controversial topics. A person who writes polemics, or speaks polemically, is called a polemicist.

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I'm not joking i need a list.

Please provide evidence to the statement: "Kirk actively shit on peoples personal freedoms"

Please also define what "actively shit on peoples personal freedoms" actually means...

Details are important if you care about living in reality.

If you are fat and i tell you not stop drinking soda, am i "Actively shitting on a persons personal freedoms?"




Look on any given even slightly left of center website and you can find the issues people had with things Kirk said.
It's not hard, try just even a little bit.

And yes he gave people microphones but he also had a much larger platform where he would expose why XYZ about someone's lifestyle was wrong.

Point being maybe we just don't celebrate people getting killed for reasons that don't warrant it.

Zoffen

Quote from: TylerBeer on January 08, 2026, 04:43 PMPoint being maybe we just don't celebrate people getting killed

I fixed it for you.


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Quote from: gcode on January 09, 2026, 03:29 AMWho funds the anti ICE protests?

You do

The DNC, Soros, USAID (not anymore), fraudulent taxpayer money, etc...

gcode

She was a warrior

QuoteWhile the group typically refers to themselves as "legal observers," sources said members will often attempt to interfere with federal operations.

"She was a warrior. She died doing what was right," a mother named Leesa, whose child attends the same school as Good's, told the New York Post.

"I know she was doing the right thing. I watched the video plenty of times but I also know in my heart the woman she was, she was doing everything right."

According to DHS, Good followed federal ice agents to two other locations prior to the shooting and was blocking the roadway to interfere with ongoing enforcement in the area
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jstell

I'm starting to think ICE/CBP needs to invest in some wheel chocks.  This is getting to be an epidemic.

QuoteA Customs and Border Protection Agent shot and injured two people in Portland, Oregon, Thursday, who federal authorities said "weaponized" their vehicle against law enforcement.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/2-shot-federal-agents-portland-sources/story?id=129038573

QuoteA U.S. Customs and Border Protection agent shot and wounded two people in the city of Portland on Thursday afternoon. The U.S. Department of Homeland Security said the shooting was in self-defense when the driver of a vehicle that the agents had pulled over tried to run them over.
https://katu.com/news/local/ice-shoots-two-people-in-portlandoregon

gcode

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Quote from: jstell on January 09, 2026, 09:35 AMThis is getting to be an epidemic.

You are finally waking up to reality. This epidemic started 20,000,000 border crossings ago.
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