Kennedy Measles

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jstell

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Quote from: YoDoug on April 23, 2026, 12:54 PMThe funniest thing about this measles hype from the left is that six years ago they wanted to jail people for going to get a haircut during covid but now they don't care if our borders are open for people with all kinds of diseases.
You know how you accuse James of not understanding your point and 'swerving' - you've just done it.
Never mind the 'jail for haircut' distraction.  The only connection between borders and measles is US travelers (unvaccinated) returning from places with prevalent measles.

Trying to blame measles in the US on 'illegals' is just regurgitating some Fox Lies talking point.
The answer, and how the US gained 'eliminated' status, is maintaining a 95% vaccination rate for herd immunity to be effective.

Trying to pin this on the left wanting open borders is just ignorant as well.  There was a bipartisan immigration bill in the Senate in Feb.2024 that was tanked under pressure from the orange idiot, because he need to rile up his base on this issue for election purposes.  (This ranks in stupidity with him tanking USMCA saying what a terrible deal it was - when it was his f-ing deal!)

Specifically to your attempt to pin a strawman opinion on me wanting open borders, that is incorrect.  There needs to be border security.  My only complaint has been that during this administration, ICE has been rather thuggish.  And executive orders removing asylum status and other pending legal immigration processes has been another publicity stunt to rile up his base, and has proven again and again in the courts to have not been legal orders from the orange god.
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mowens

Quote from: ghuns on April 23, 2026, 12:11 PMIf the mf'ers weren't coming across the border, it wouldn't matter that our vaccine rates dropped. :secret:

The only way for that to work is to close our borders tightly and completely. No one coming in. At all.
"I would gladly risk feeling bad at times if it also meant that I could taste my dessert." - Data

jstell

Quote from: mowens on April 23, 2026, 01:17 PMNo one coming in. At all.
Including any of us coming back.
But we'd still have to get back to 95% immunization in order to achieve 'eliminated' status again now that we've f'ed it up.

Bucky Cornstarch

Quote from: Incogneeto on April 23, 2026, 12:48 PMIf by "We" you mean you and that Turd in the stall with you??

"Same birth same brain" ::) Flush the toilet let's see which one of you is left with half a brain.

I'm rootin fur ya!!

If you could remember anything before your last Poop. You might recall the outbreak started with the Amish in Texas and 2 kids died.And yes, it was during Biden's term.

I understand you don't have the capacity to recognize a religion nor their faiths.

Most Libs don't. ::)

Seriously bro, since it's obviously too late for the getting smarter thing, lay off the booze.
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Incogneeto

Quote from: jstell on April 23, 2026, 01:08 PMYou know how you accuse James of not understanding your point and 'swerving' - you've just done it.
Never mind the 'jail for haircut' distraction.  The only connection between borders and measles is US travelers (unvaccinated) returning from places with prevalent measles.

Trying to blame measles in the US on 'illegals' is just regurgitating some Fox Lies talking point.
The answer, and how the US gained 'eliminated' status, is maintaining a 95% immunization rate for herd immunity to be effective.

Trying to pin this on the left wanting open borders is just ignorant as well.  There was a bipartisan immigration bill in the Senate in Feb.2024 that was tanked under pressure from the orange idiot, because he need to rile up his base on this issue for election purposes.  (This ranks in stupidity with him tanking USMCA saying what a terrible deal it was - when it was his f-ing deal!)

Specifically to your attempt to pin a strawman opinion on me wanting open borders, that is incorrect.  There needs to be border security.  My only complaint has been that during this administration, ICE has been rather thuggish.  And executive orders removing asylum status and other pending legal immigration processes has been another publicity stunt to rile up his base, and has proven again and again in the courts to have not been legal orders from the orange god.

I'm still laughing!!!

Kinda hard to have "Herd Immunity" when you inject 23 million unvaxxed illegals into the pool.

But I digress , must have been those traveling Amish!!!  >:(

And every court who fought Trump has lost on Appeal.  ::)

Incogneeto

Quote from: Bucky Cornstarch on April 23, 2026, 01:35 PMSeriously bro, since it's obviously too late for the getting smarter thing, lay off the booze.

"We" don't care what you think. Next you'll be clever with "You are but what are "We'!!! 8) 
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jstell

Quote from: Incogneeto on April 23, 2026, 01:40 PMKinda hard to have "Herd Immunity" when you inject 23 million unvaxxed illegals into the pool.
Not sure where you get 23M.  Generally agreed upon number is ~15M, total.  This is a little less than 5% of the US population, so if we were all vaccinated and they were all not, we'd still have the needed 95%.
More importantly, most of those have been here for years - they have been part of the population longer than the recent uptick in measles outbreaks, and not the source of importation.
And many of the countries of origin have near the vaccination rate of the US, on down to about 80% - Venezuela being the exception at 60-70%.
So even if we use the 23M that puts that population closer to 7% of US total and average them at 70% vaccinated (which is likely lower than reality), less than 2% of the US population is unvaccinated undocumented immigrants. 

What we're missing is about 25M 'Muricans behaving like 'Muricants and f-ing it up for everybody.
But hey, I guess that's no surprise.  It only took about 10k to put a shiner on Jan.06
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Bucky Cornstarch

Quote from: Incogneeto on April 23, 2026, 01:48 PM"We" don't care what you think. Next you'll be clever with "You are but what are "We'!!! 8) 

Incog, people are entitled to their stupidity.

Unfortunately in this case, when a significant portion of the population practice said stupidity, people die.
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Incogneeto

Quote from: Bucky Cornstarch on April 23, 2026, 02:31 PMIncog, people are entitled to their stupidity.

Unfortunately in this case, when a significant portion of the population practice said stupidity, people die.

Hey!!! That's Pretti Goode there Bucky. Stupid people die.  :thumbsup:
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Newbeeee™

Quote from: jstell on April 23, 2026, 02:19 PMWhat we're missing is about 25M 'Muricans behaving like 'Muricants and f-ing it up for everybody.
Unless I'm misreading this drifts uncomfortably near mandating territory which would make Mengele happy....

BTW - what IF it's all made-up?
I mean the Gov wouldn't do that...right?
RIGHT?
https://x.com/sasha_latypova/status/2021978674480951775

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TylerBeer

Quote from: Newbeeee™ on April 23, 2026, 10:19 PMUnless I'm misreading this drifts uncomfortably near mandating territory which would make Mengele happy....

BTW - what IF it's all made-up?
I mean the Gov wouldn't do that...right?
RIGHT?
https://x.com/sasha_latypova/status/2021978674480951775




What in the AI is that regurgitated nonsense?

Do you know a single doctor in your life?
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Newbeeee™

Quote from: TylerBeer on April 24, 2026, 04:35 AMWhat in the AI is that regurgitated nonsense?

Do you know a single doctor in your life?
:rolleyes:
And no, not to speak with - i stay well clear. That way I'm not disappointed....
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YoDoug

Quote from: jstell on April 23, 2026, 01:08 PMThe only connection between borders and measles is US travelers (unvaccinated) returning from places with prevalent measles.



No possible way you can calculate this. We would have to know every illegal border crosser and their vax status as well as every international traveler and the vax status of everyone they came into contact with. Your argument falls flat. And for the record, I'm not against the measles vax. I just seem to remember lefties calling for jailing people for getting haircuts during covid but will defend illegal border crossers of unknown health status. Whether or not my answer stays on point to your feelings is irrelevant to the fact that hypocrisy from the left over vax/disease risk is glaringly obvious. 
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Smit

Quote from: YoDoug on April 24, 2026, 05:45 AMNo possible way you can calculate this. We would have to know every illegal border crosser and their vax status as well as every international traveler and the vax status of everyone they came into contact with. Your argument falls flat.

The same applies to your argument trolling attempt.

But good luck, you might catch one with it. :)

Quote from: Newbeeee™ on April 23, 2026, 10:19 PMUnless I'm misreading this drifts uncomfortably near mandating territory which would make Mengele happy....

BTW - what IF it's all made-up?
I mean the Gov wouldn't do that...right?
RIGHT?
https://x.com/sasha_latypova/status/2021978674480951775

Frenchy, do you have any reason at all to think all the random people you quote from X are credible? Or do they just enforce your world view so you quote them without knowing a fkn thing about them?

Just wondering. :)
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Incogneeto

Quote from: jstell on April 23, 2026, 02:19 PMNot sure where you get 23M.  Generally agreed upon number is ~15M, total.  This is a little less than 5% of the US population, so if we were all vaccinated and they were all not, we'd still have the needed 95%.
More importantly, most of those have been here for years - they have been part of the population longer than the recent uptick in measles outbreaks, and not the source of importation.
And many of the countries of origin have near the vaccination rate of the US, on down to about 80% - Venezuela being the exception at 60-70%.
So even if we use the 23M that puts that population closer to 7% of US total and average them at 70% vaccinated (which is likely lower than reality), less than 2% of the US population is unvaccinated undocumented immigrants. 

What we're missing is about 25M 'Muricans behaving like 'Muricants and f-ing it up for everybody.
But hey, I guess that's no surprise.  It only took about 10k to put a shiner on Jan.06

You should start a garden with all that Bullcrap. ::)