Latest Stimulus - packed full of spending

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marshal

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December 23, 2020, 09:28 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
and now they'll push through $2k per person with a crapload of other stuff tacked on because no one will have time to read it, and anyone who votes against it looks evil in the media.

neurosis

#31
December 23, 2020, 09:32 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: marshal post_id=1107 time=1608744516 user_id=93and now they'll push through $2k per person with a crapload of other stuff tacked on because no one will have time to read it, and anyone who votes against it looks evil in the media.


Are you ready to start agreeing with AOC?  

'It's hostage-taking.' AOC lashed out after lawmakers got only hours to read and pass the huge 5,593-page bill to secure COVID-19 relief

https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-angry-representatives-2-hours-read-covid-19-stimulus-bill-2020-12">https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-ang ... ll-2020-12">https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-angry-representatives-2-hours-read-covid-19-stimulus-bill-2020-12

She has a fuckin point?  Right?
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

gcode

#32
December 23, 2020, 09:37 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
QuoteAre you ready to start agreeing with AOC?


even a broken clock is right twice a day  :rofl:

neurosis

#33
December 23, 2020, 09:42 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: gcode post_id=1109 time=1608745026 user_id=60
QuoteAre you ready to start agreeing with AOC?


even a broken clock is right twice a day  :rofl:


I don't have a lot of nice things to say about AOC.  She's definitely consistent and she does want to fight for the little guy.  This is one thing that I agree with her whole heartedly on.
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

John316

#34
December 23, 2020, 10:01 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: neurosis post_id=1110 time=1608745325 user_id=49
Quote from: gcode post_id=1109 time=1608745026 user_id=60
QuoteAre you ready to start agreeing with AOC?


even a broken clock is right twice a day  :rofl:


I don't have a lot of nice things to say about AOC.  She's definitely consistent and she does want to fight for the little guy.  This is one thing that I agree with her whole heartedly on.


The main problem with her is her methods are not sound and support more government control instead of supporting the true needs of the people

John316

#35
December 23, 2020, 10:07 AM Last Edit: December 23, 2020, 11:27 AM by John316
Quote from: neurosis post_id=1104 time=1608744220 user_id=49
Quote from: mayday post_id=1093 time=1608742350 user_id=77"I think that he got a little butt hurt "
you mean byte hurt


Ironically, he has a place to go nuts with his political sewage now.  Other than twitter that is.  

And by the way, Reko;  JO sucks.   :D


So what's with Reko and Joel Osteen?
I missed the memo on that one but I do know that he is part of the Prosperity Movement that teaches falsehoods about scripture pertaining to the collection of personal wealth. I do think he's earned a lot of his wealth from his book sales which I'm okay with from a business standpoint but as far as biblical teaching and such his books are more about self-help than they are about Christ centered teaching and I've watched his show several times where there was not one mention of scripture or Christ and that raised a red flag for me.

John316

#36
December 23, 2020, 10:12 AM Last Edit: December 23, 2020, 10:15 AM by John316
Quote from: marshal post_id=1107 time=1608744516 user_id=93and now they'll push through $2k per person with a crapload of other stuff tacked on because no one will have time to read it, and anyone who votes against it looks evil in the media.


They will produce addendums to the current bill to change specific details like the amount of the stimulus payments. I believe those have to have 100% support from congress to get passed but I think they also have to make provisions for that change by either shifting money from other programs in the bill or changing the overall amount.
IMO they need to amend to cut out some of that pork. We now see why there was so much haggling over the bill and why it's taken so long to negotiate a final version. This bill is an abbreviated version of the HEROES act that was passed by the House in the summer and that the Senate wouldn't pass.

Dan_AKA_ROY23

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December 23, 2020, 10:12 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: neurosis post_id=1108 time=1608744760 user_id=49She has a fuckin knockout nose?  Right?


fixed (fissed)

John316

#38
December 23, 2020, 10:16 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 post_id=1118 time=1608747165 user_id=82
Quote from: neurosis post_id=1108 time=1608744760 user_id=49She has a fuckin knockout nose?  Right?


fixed (fissed)


Dan Akroyd thinking with the wrong head again.  :rtfm:

neurosis

#39
December 23, 2020, 10:17 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: John316 post_id=1116 time=1608746821 user_id=56So what's with Reko and Joel Osteen?
I missed the memo on that one but I do know that he is part of the Prosperity Movement that teaches falsehoods about scripture pertaining to the collection of personal wealth. I do think he's earned a lot of his wealth from his book sales which I'm okay with from a business standpoint but as far as biblical teaching and such his books are more about self-help than they are about Christ centered teaching and I've watched his show several times where there was not one mention of scripture or Christ that raised a red flag for me.


He's a JO fan.  He had a few posts about him on EMC.

I agree with everything that you've said.  I'll never talk about religion.  I'm not a religious man but I understand how important it is.  I think that people who are prosperity gospel preachers are garbage.  I have a few other other opinions on his b/s about his moms cancer but i'll leave that for another time.
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Jeff

#40
December 23, 2020, 10:21 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 post_id=1077 time=1608733171 user_id=82
Quote from: Jeff post_id=1074 time=1608732578 user_id=103I wonder how many millions Joel Osteen is going to get this time around?
Last time he got $4.4 mill.


He's a fraud.


Remember when he wouldn't allow hurricane victims to take shelter in his church?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Dan_AKA_ROY23

#41
December 23, 2020, 10:25 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: John316 post_id=1119 time=1608747413 user_id=56
Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 post_id=1118 time=1608747165 user_id=82
Quote from: neurosis post_id=1108 time=1608744760 user_id=49She has a fuckin knockout nose?  Right?


fixed (fissed)


Dan Akroyd thinking with the wrong head again.  :rtfm:


">[spoiler title=Then you don't have to look. What a nose!  :wub: ]https://i.insider.com/5fa2a2a469331a0011bc731c?width=700">

John316

#42
December 23, 2020, 11:13 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: neurosis post_id=1120 time=1608747442 user_id=49He's a JO fan.  He had a few posts about him on EMC.

I agree with everything that you've said.  I'll never talk about religion.  I'm not a religious man but I understand how important it is.  I think that people who are prosperity gospel preachers are garbage.  I have a few other other opinions on his b/s about his moms cancer but i'll leave that for another time.


I don't consider myself religious either but the definition/perspective of religion varies from person to person.
Someone who doesn't understand my view will think I am religious but what others see as "religious" I view as "religiosity", meaning the outward behavior and appearance of holiness by following "religious regulations" to purvey a sense of piousness while becoming a whitewashed tomb like the Pharisees in the time of Jesus who had the outward appearance of righteousness but were evil on the inside.

I love The Lord Jesus with all my heart and do seek him daily through prayer, devotional reading, and worship but what you see from me is my humanity on full display. Being an imperfect human being I won't try and pass myself off as being perfect or above all things ungodly but I will work to be more faithful to God by avoiding those things as much as I can while admitting my imperfections and working to overcome them the best I can. I am so much a work in progress.
 
I am who I am and I'm not afraid to be myself but that includes the need to be who I am in Christ as much as possible in all situations.

neurosis

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December 23, 2020, 11:17 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: John316 post_id=1126 time=1608750825 user_id=56I am who I am and I'm not afraid to be myself but that includes the need to be who I am in Christ as much as possible in all situations.


I may have phrased that wrong.  Apologies.  But you understand what I mean when I say that?
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

John316

#44
December 23, 2020, 11:24 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: neurosis post_id=1127 time=1608751071 user_id=49
Quote from: John316 post_id=1126 time=1608750825 user_id=56I am who I am and I'm not afraid to be myself but that includes the need to be who I am in Christ as much as possible in all situations.


I may have phrased that wrong.  Apologies.  But you understand what I mean when I say that?


I understood what you meant and don't think you have anything to apologize for. I didn't take it personally and it was more like I went off on a tangent to explain my own view on the matter.
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