Vaccination and work

[Jim at Gentex]

psoriatic arthritis is an auto immune disease which puts you at a higher risk already

Good point, but higher risk doesn't necessarily mean someone should automatically get the shot.

My son has MS which puts him in a very high risk category, but his neurologist recommended he NOT get the vax because she is concerned about negative interaction with one of the MS drugs he currently takes.

Everyone should consult their doctor and make the decision that is right for them without badgering from anyone.
Too many in the news media and social media are already criticizing and marginalizing unvaccinated people without having a clue what they are talking about.  

[neurosis]

[quote="Jim at Gentex" post_id=13932 time=1628158868 user_id=83]
Too many in the news media and social media are already criticizing and marginalizing unvaccinated people without having a clue what they are talking about.
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There are a lot of people who got their Phd's on social media who are marginalizing/criticizing people who have been vaccinated as well.    

I'm not sure why people bother mentioning whether they have, or haven't been vaccinated. It's nobodies business but their own.

[Jeff]

Get the damn vaccine. It may save your life.

We don't know how many people truly died BECAUSE of the chinavirus. Corpse numbers were all lumped together no matter the cause of death because of money. Hospitals got more money if the chinavirus was on the death certificate.
PEDOJOE is letting millions of infected illegal immigrants across the border,shipping them off across the country and who knows how many more he will let in.

Those are facts, not opinions.

If this "pandemic" was as serious as they tell us that it is (for everyone) then the border would be closed to prevent further spread.
Is the virus deadly? Yes for some people. Is it as deadly as they say it is? Not a chance in hell.
This is all about control, plain and simple. They want the people as reliant upon the government as possible.
All of the signs are there, All you have to do is you open your eyes and stop bleating like a sheep.

[Del.]

Jeff, I got the vaccine because I thought it was best for me. I believe it can save lives . Others can make their own choice. I have no regrets and hope those who didn't have vaccine don't have any either. Chance of dying from Covid is less now from better treatment and knowledge over the last year and a half.

[Jeff]

This is why ppl don't want the vaccine
ME: CDC, should I get poked if I already had Covid?
CDC: "Yes, you should be poked regardless of whether you already had COVID-19. That's because experts do not yet know how long you are protected from getting sick again after recovering from COVID-19."
ME: Oh, okay, we don't know how long natural immunity lasts. Got it. So, how long does poked-induced immunity last?
CDC: "There is still a lot we are learning about COVID-19 pokes and CDC is constantly reviewing evidence and updating guidance. We don't know how long protection lasts for those who are poked."
ME: Okay ... but wait a second. I thought you said the reason I need the poke was because we don't know how long my natural immunity lasts, but it seems like you're saying we ALSO don't know how long poke immunity lasts either. So, how exactly is the poke immunity better than my natural immunity?
CDC: ...
ME: Uh ... alright. But, haven't there been a bunch of studies suggesting that natural immunity could last for years or decades?
CDC: Yes.
NEWYORKTIMES: "Years, maybe even decades, according to a new study."
ME: Ah. So natural immunity might last longer than poke immunity?
CDC: Possibly. You never know.
ME: Okay. If I get the poked, does that mean I won't get sick?
BRITAIN: Nope. We are just now entering a seasonal spike and about half of our infections and hospital admissions are poked people.
ME: CDC, is this true? Are there a lot of people in the U.S. catching Covid after getting the poke?
CDC: We stopped tracking breakthrough cases. We accept voluntary reports of breakthroughs but aren't out there looking for them.
ME: Does that mean that if someone comes in the hospital with Covid, you don't track them because they've been poked? You only track the UN-poked Covid cases?
CDC: That's right.
ME: Oh, okay. Hmm. Well, if I can still get sick after I get the poke, how is it helping me?
CDC: We never said you wouldn't get sick. We said it would reduce your chances of serious illness or death.
ME: Oh, sorry. Alright, exactly how much does it reduce my chance of serious illness or death.
CDC: We don't know "exactly."
ME: Oh. Then what's your best estimate for how much risk reduction there is?
CDC: We don't know, okay? Next question.
ME: Um, if I'm healthy and don't want the poke, is there any reason I should get it?
CDC: Yes, for the collective.
ME: How does the collective benefit from me getting poked?
CDC: Because you could spread the virus to someone else who might get sick and die.
ME: Can a poked person spread the virus to someone else?
CDC: Yes.
ME: So if I get poked, I could still spread the virus to someone else?
CDC: Yes.
ME: But I thought you just said, the REASON I should get poked was to prevent me spreading the virus? How does that make sense if I can still catch Covid and spread it after getting the poke?
CDC: Never mind that. The other thing is, if you stay unpoked, there's a chance the virus could possibly mutate into a strain that escapes the pokes protection, putting all poked people at risk.
ME: So the poke stops the virus from mutating?
CDC: No.
ME:  So it can still mutate in poked people?
CDC: Yes.
ME: This seems confusing. If the poke doesn't stop mutations, and it doesn't stop infections, then how does me getting poked help prevent a more deadly strain from evolving to escape the poke?
CDC: You aren't listening, okay? The bottom line is: as long as you are unpoked, you pose a threat to poked people.
ME: But what KIND of threat??
CDC: The threat that they could get a serious case of Covid and possibly die.
ME: My brain hurts. Didn't you JUST say that the poke doesn't keep people from catching Covid, but prevents a serious case or dying?  Now it seems like you're saying poked people can still easily die from Covid even after they got the poke just by running into an unpoked person! Which is it??
CDC: That's it, we're hanging up now.
ME: Wait! I just want to make sure I understand all this. So, even if I ALREADY had Covid, I should STILL get poked, because we don't know how long natural immunity lasts, and we also don't know how long poke immunity lasts. And I should get the poke to keep a poked person from catching Covid from me, but even if I get the poke, I can give it to the poked person anyways. And, the other poked person can still easily catch a serious case of Covid from me and die. Do I have all that right?
...
ME: Um, hello? Is anyone there?

[gcode]

If this "pandemic" was as serious as they tell us that it is (for everyone) then the border would be closed to prevent further spread.
Is the virus deadly? Yes for some people. Is it as deadly as they say it is? Not a chance in hell.
This is all about control, plain and simple. They want the people as reliant upon the government as possible.
All of the signs are there, All you have to do is you open your eyes and stop bleating like a sheep.

The Dem's are creating a couple of generations of people totally dependent on the government
to solve their every problem
These kids will look to .guv for any problem they encounter in life and will be incapable
of taking care of themselves.

This morning we had a saw house  which was unable to fulfill a scheduled delivery and could not provide us
with a firm delivery date.
The  stated reason was a " lack of manpower"
Most restaurants I go to have half their tables roped off because they
don't have staff to man them

Our purchasing manager and a couple of program managers were talking about it.
They all had teenaged to 20 something kids, plus nieces and nephews
They said they have all been laying around the house for over a year livin' large on Biden Bucks

One of our young mill operators told me he has friends who haven't worked
in over a year and are bringing in $1600/week in Biden Bucks
Many are collecting under more than one name as all the checks and balances were
removed to fast track getting the checks out to people.
many honest people are finding they have massive tax liabilities because someone
has been illegally collecting benefits using their SS number  

This doesn't even include the stimmy checks they've been mailing out
I think there have been 4 Federal stimmy checks and Cali is sending out a state stimmy check
about a week  before the recall election next month

Of course people like my wife and I do not make the cut for these stimmy checks, state or Federal

[HTM01]

Jeff,
when you copy/paste you should add the source

[Jeff]

The Dem's are creating a couple of generations of people totally dependent on the government
to solve their every problem
These kids will look to .guv for any problem they encounter in life and will be incapable
of taking care of themselves.

And don't forget they want to instill a universal basic income.
I said this before and it's still plausible: China doesn't want a war with us, they're too smart for that, they want to take over the U.S. and they will do it from within. They have the money and the resources to do it and the Democrats are handing it to them on a silver platter by their extremely biases and blind-eye "news" and the destruction of the U.S. economy and are now making sure the people are compliant.

China owns nba players, actors/actresses, etc... because of pure greed for the almighty dollar and a lack of fucking balls to speak their minds out of fear of losing their attention whore spotlight jobs and some of their millions.

[Jeff]

Jeff,
when you copy/paste you should add the source

It was from a facebook post that my friend shared and is apparently from an anonymous source.

[Jeff]

Everyone's favorite moron AOC and the Senator from Mass. masking up for a photo op and immediately removing it after the photos were taken.
SCAMDEMIC!

https://notthebee.com/article/oh-look-heres-aoc-masking-up-for-a-photo-op-and-then-removing-her-mask-immediately-after?fbclid=IwAR0zM87CTfDKtdtXfgQNEAwxGZIws6V-uRf7PTvI9qhVjihXPaHtrQNTpdY">//https://notthebee.com/article/oh-look-heres-aoc-masking-up-for-a-photo-op-and-then-removing-her-mask-immediately-after?fbclid=IwAR0zM87CTfDKtdtXfgQNEAwxGZIws6V-uRf7PTvI9qhVjihXPaHtrQNTpdY

[gcode]

China owns nba players, actors/actresses, etc...

more importantly China controls large chucks of the US media
US pro basket ball and US movies/TV are worth billions in China
and the US media giants bend over backwards to keep it that way.

[ghuns]

I took the J&J after a guy I went to high school with spent a week in the ICU with the 'Rona. He was in great shape with zero co-morbidities. Nobody knows why it hit him so hard. The chances of that happening to me are low, but so are the risks of an adverse reaction to the vaccine. It was kinda 50-50 for me, but I went ahead and got it.

I do not regret it, but I kinda feel like we were ALL lied to. When you got a smallpox vaccine, you didn't ever GET smallpox. Not a mild case, not just a less serious case, not just a, hey, you didn't die from it case. YOU DIDN"T GET IT AT ALL. EVER. The disease was essentially eradicated from the entire planet.

That's what a 'vaccine' is supposed to do.

Now we have vaccinated people getting Covid. We're also told that they can pass it on to others. Even if it shots lowers the death rate from Covid in those who get it, they're still pretty shitty vaccines. Maybe an OK 'therapeutic', but as a vaccines, they're all crap. The best way to truly benefit from the vaccines is to own large amounts of Pfizer or Moderna stock.

[Jeff]

The best way to truly benefit from the vaccines is to own large amounts of Pfizer or Moderna stock.

Didn't big pharm "lose" a lot of money while Trump was in office?
I wonder if this is one of PedoJoe's promises to Big Pharm in return for "campaign donations", it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

[HTM01]

well i do happen to own some Pfizer stock

[Jim at Gentex]

well i do happen to own some Pfizer stock

LOL
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