Russia Ukraine: War soon?

Started by Dan_AKA_ROY23, February 14, 2022, 01:33 PM

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RobertELee

Two US drones currently in the air monitoring the situation. Typically there is only one that stays up for 24-36 hour shifts. The one near Italy is heading back to refuel.


gcode

Hopefully this report is accurate. I've subscribed to this guy for years
and he is usually spot on

Pain Management

This is only about half the article

QuoteFebruary 25, 2022: Russia finally "invaded" Ukraine yesterday after recognizing the two Russian-created governments in the half of Donbas that Russia has been keeping Ukrainian forces out of since 2014. By declaring these two republics as legitimate, Russia justified sending in troops as peacekeepers and threatening to invade the rest of Ukraine if Ukrainian forces fired back against more attacks by the local and Russian forces in these two republics. Russia reinforced this threat by threatening to base over 100,000 troops on the Ukrainian border.

As expected, not a lot of the nearly 200,000 Russian troops now near the Ukraine borders actually entered Ukraine. All, or most appeared to be volunteers, rather than the one-year conscripts that comprise half the strength of the armed forces. Few of the conscripts and even fewer of their parents are eager for the conscripts to be fighting neighbors.

Russian airborne forces managed to take an airport ten kilometers outside Kyiv. Efforts to use that airport to bring in additional troops were disrupted by the Ukrainian use of Stinger portable anti-aircraft missiles as well as rifle and machine-gun fire at low flying aircraft. The airport was quickly attacked by a Ukrainian army rapid reaction force organized and trained for retaking key locations seized by Russian airborne forces. While the area around the airport was soon surrounded by regular reservists and armed volunteers, the Rapid Reaction unit retook the airport before the Russians could use larger transport aircraft to bring in more troops. Russia appears to have underestimated the preparations Ukraine have made since 2014 to deal with this kind of invasion. In addition to 150 local defense units (of at least battalion size) arrangements were made to quickly arm, train and deploy volunteers, which includes all physically able males aged 16 to 60. The regular army obtained more portable anti-aircraft weapons and trained special units to deal with any Russians that seized key objectives. All those armed Ukrainians were more of an obstacle that the Russians expected. The invaders are using about a dozen main roads from the border to objectives inside Ukraine. Within hours all those roads were under fire from the armed locals. Even convoys with numerous armed escorts were fired on and the Russians did not have enough troops to clear the roads of armed hostiles. Some convoys were halted by roadblocks and at least one Russian reconnaissance platoon was captured. While the Russians control most Ukrainian airspace and coastal waters, land areas remain under Ukrainian control.



Del.

I think this invasion will backfire on Putin and his days will be numbered

JParis

Quote from: Del. on February 25, 2022, 07:28 AMI think this invasion will backfire on Putin and his days will be numbered

Here's the thing though...he has essentially become a dictator...sure there are elections but they're widely known to be fraudulant...he's been allowed to become President for life...

It's going to take someone far worse than him to boot him from office....

Then what do have???

mayday

Quote from: JParis on February 25, 2022, 07:32 AMHere's the thing though...he has essentially become a dictator...sure there are elections but they're widely known to be fraudulant...he's been allowed to become President for life...

What? wait......... :secret:

Del.

Ukraine is fighting with all they have. They just don't have enough sadly.

gcode

Ukraine can't beat the Russians and drive them out, but I'm not sure the Russians can win either
This may devolve into a long term occupation/guerilla war.


Dan_AKA_ROY23

Zelensky is a brave, inspiring, fearless, courageous leader. Staying in Kyiv. Braving the onslaught. Putin's worst nightmare. The world is watching. May God bless Ukraine and its brave people and REAL leader! Fight on! F&^K the Russians!!! (establishment, not the people. Brave Russians protesting the war. More stories coming out)



Dan_AKA_ROY23

Stocks soaring as 1. sanctions aren't too harsh 2. Putin says he's willing to negotiate peace terms with Ukraine.

- Things aren't going as smoothly as Putin had hoped. Ukrainians fighting with resolve and hard! (it's not the size of the dog, but the fight in the dog)

gcode

Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 on February 25, 2022, 12:08 PMPutin says he's willing to negotiate peace terms with Ukraine.

Given his track record, only a fool would negotiate with him.
The only starting point for talking to Putin should be
1. all Russian troops out of Ukraine.. then we talk

gcode

One thing to keep in mind about the Russian Army
Except for few small elite units, the Russian Army is made up of draftees on a one year tour of duty.
I read an article by a reporter who interviewed some Russian troops in Ukraine
They were told they were going to participate in war games in Belarus and were stunned when
people started shooting at them. 

RobertELee

Quote from: gcode on February 25, 2022, 12:37 PMOne thing to keep in mind about the Russian Army
Except for few small elite units, the Russian Army is made up of draftees on a one year tour of duty.
I read an article by a reporter who interviewed some Russian troops in Ukraine
They were told they were going to participate in war games in Belarus and were stunned when
people started shooting at them. 

Let's hope this starts a coup that ousts that POS.