2000 Mules

[neurosis]

Yes I believe he probably did want Biden over trump

You lost me right there, but I'll continue reading. You have my attention.   

[gcode]

that's not true, there are all kinds of conservative law firms that would hire Barr in a minute.

maybe..  but a whole lot of lawyers who worked for the Trump campaign are blackballed now

[Jeff]

First, I think a lot of moderate, neverTrump R's didn't fathom that Biden would take such a hard left turn. I

You're giving them WAY too much credit.
That's assuming they thought he was sane and competent to sit in the Oval Office.

Nobody can tell me with a straight face that during his campaign, Biden was NOT showing signs of dementia or alz.

The ONLY reason people voted for Biden was because of the massive propaganda that slandered him (Trump) during the 2016 campaign and continued every single day until the 2020 election.


People hated him because he could not be bought and he told the truth and hurt people's feelings.
The D's needed someone they could puppeteer. And who better a candidate than one that doesn't even know what planet he's on?

[beej]

I think Barr is part of the RINO, Romney/Bush/Cheney, big gov part of the Republican party. Yes I believe he probably did want Biden over trump for a couple reasons. First, I think a lot of moderate, neverTrump R's didn't fathom that Biden would take such a hard left turn. I think they thought he would be more center left. Second, Trump has a very abrasive personality. I think there are quite a few entrenched R public servant lifer's that Trump probably pissed off enough that they thought they would rather handle 4 years of a presumed center left Biden. They anticipated winning back the house in the midterms, just like with Obama. This will gridlock gov and they can run their "show" trials and investigations just like J6 sham going on right now.


As far as lying about it, Barr needs to carry the water for his people. The neverTrumpers think once they get rid of Trump everything will go back to RINO business as usual. They believe that the movement Trump started will die with his political aspirations. Simultaneously they are trying to infiltrate the MAGA movement just like they did to the Tea Party movement in the early Obama presidency. People like Barr (swamp lifer's) think they need to stay on party point or risk being ousted with Trump. That is why Barr dismissed any claims of election fraud without any meaningful investigation. In their minds, it's their sandbox and Trump is just a mean bully kid that will be kicked out soon enough. They don't care what the R voters really want, just as long as they can say/convince them to vote red.

Besides, When you really get down to the polices that matter to the globalists (wars, taxes, tariffs, etc) there is not a lot of difference between R or D. They want their wars, big gov, cheap imports, no tariffs, etc. The same thing the dems want. They just want to be in control.

If this is true, why didn't Barr just remain at his law firm, keep raking in the millions instead of taking a paycut to undo the damage that the Mueller investigation was doing, and appoint Durham to get to the bottom of how it all started in the first place? Anybody who wanted trump out of office, was perfectly fine with the Mueller investigation, and was upset at the idea of the Durham investigation.  If you just stop and think it through a little bit, your arguments just don't hold up. (not as far as Bill Barr goes anyway)

[gcode]

The D's needed someone they could puppeteer. And who better a candidate than one that doesn't even know what planet he's on?

Actually Biden was a last gasp Hail Mary.
If you recall the Dem primary race started with an even dozen clowns
Biden and Harris were both eliminated early in the race as Dem primary voters
wanted an ultra woke, ultra liberal candidate. 
With the primaries nearly over it was looking like the Dem candidate had a less than zero chance
of beating Trump. The leading contender was Sanders and I forget who else.
The Dem party big wigs did a back room deal, kicked the leading candidates and the Dem primary voters
to the curb and crowned Biden/Harris the Dem presidential ticket.

It quickly became apparent that Biden/Harris were not going to beat Trump, and 2000 Mules were born.
 

[neurosis]

Am I the only one who remembers when Trump picked Pence for the VP, everyone praised the choice because Pence was the most conservative choice?  Or When Barr was chosen for the AG everyone applauded that decision.

Weird how after they both criticized Trump they're both Rinos now? 

And people wonder why people think that the fringes of politics are akin to being in a cult?    

[YoDoug]

If this is true, why didn't Barr just remain at his law firm, keep raking in the millions instead of taking a paycut to undo the damage that the Mueller investigation was doing, and appoint Durham to get to the bottom of how it all started in the first place? Anybody who wanted trump out of office, was perfectly fine with the Mueller investigation, and was upset at the idea of the Durham investigation.  If you just stop and think it through a little bit, your arguments just don't hold up. (not as far as Bill Barr goes anyway)

My arguments absolutely hold up if you are thinking chess, not checkers. Barr isn't printing his own money at this law firm. They have clients that pay. Specifically pay for lawyers with the kind of insider connections that someone like Barr has. If he speaks out against the swamp and loses his connections/pull, he's not worth millions to anyone. The money trail doesn't start or stop with Barr.

Furthermore, the whole Mueller investigation was based on fraud and false accusations. Barr knew that it was never going to remove Trump from office but he needed to oppose it. Additionally, as I stated before, the swamp was just riding out Trumps time. The purpose of the Durham investigation for the swamp isn't to exonerate or save trump, it is for political power against the Dems. It is fuel for the endless hearings that will be had once the R's win the house, but nothing will come of those hearings. They are all designed to keep R voters thinking their old party reps actually care about them and wouldn't sell them out to big gov, big business, globalists. 

[YoDoug]

maybe..  but a whole lot of lawyers who worked for the Trump campaign are blackballed now

Exactly, those are the kinds of law firms that make money by the connections and influence they have.

[mkd]

Am I the only one who remembers when Trump picked Pence for the VP, everyone praised the choice because Pence was the most conservative choice?  Or When Barr was chosen for the AG everyone applauded that decision.

Weird how after they both criticized Trump they're both Rinos now? 

And people wonder why people think that the fringes of politics are akin to being in a cult?    

there you go trying to play both sides and missing basic facts, again.

[neurosis]

there you go trying to play both sides and missing basic facts, again.

I'm not sure what I'm missing?

I can't prove anything. They trashed all of those conversations from the emc OT.    Pretend I never said anything.

[mkd]

I'm not sure what I'm missing?

I can't prove anything. They trashed all of those conversations from the emc OT.    Pretend I never said anything.

all good, I'm just starting shit; it's friday.
 So answer me this: Would a 3 year mueller investigation based on a comically stupid piss dossier take place under a Holder justice dept against Obummer? He was "his boy".
 So Barr being a Neocon-rino? If it walks like a duck............................

[beej]

My arguments absolutely hold up if you are thinking chess, not checkers. Barr isn't printing his own money at this law firm. They have clients that pay. Specifically pay for lawyers with the kind of insider connections that someone like Barr has. If he speaks out against the swamp and loses his connections/pull, he's not worth millions to anyone. The money trail doesn't start or stop with Barr.

Furthermore, the whole Mueller investigation was based on fraud and false accusations. Barr knew that it was never going to remove Trump from office but he needed to oppose it. Additionally, as I stated before, the swamp was just riding out Trumps time. The purpose of the Durham investigation for the swamp isn't to exonerate or save trump, it is for political power against the Dems. It is fuel for the endless hearings that will be had once the R's win the house, but nothing will come of those hearings. They are all designed to keep R voters thinking their old party reps actually care about them and wouldn't sell them out to big gov, big business, globalists. 

Well, if that's true, that is quite a plan. He must have released Covid in China as well, because that was what sank Trump. Maybe you're right. I've been wrong before. but Pence, Barr, Devos, Jared, and Ivanka, all seem to agree that the election was not stolen. (at least not in the methods 1 and 2 listed above) Maybe they were all in on this together. Maybe all the RINO'S got together and hashed out a plan to release the Covid Kracken in China, hoping it would destroy the US economy and thereby, get the Evil Orange Man out of office. Or it could be that Trump, as good as his policies might have been, got something wrong in that last year, lost the election because of his own incompetence, and is blaming his loss on others. 

this whole election thing reminds me of the folks who always have proof that Elvis is still alive, but for whatever strange reason, never seem to produce him.

[neurosis]

all good, I'm just starting shit; it's friday.
 So answer me this: Would a 3 year mueller investigation based on a comically stupid piss dossier take place under a Holder justice dept against Obummer? He was "his boy".
 So Barr being a Neocon-rino? If it walks like a duck............................

I guess I'm not in to the whataboutism's?  We could start a different conversation about that I suppose. 

We all get caught up in the well he did this but they did that b/s and I think that it clouds the discussions. 

I ask all of these dumb questions because, well, I'm dumb.  lol.  But I wonder how people come to these conclusions.

[beej]

all good, I'm just starting shit; it's friday.
 So answer me this: Would a 3 year mueller investigation based on a comically stupid piss dossier take place under a Holder justice dept against Obummer? He was "his boy".
 So Barr being a Neocon-rino? If it walks like a duck............................

that investigation started under Jeff Sessions, not Bill Barr.

[Incogneeto]

I ask all of these dumb questions because, well, I'm dumb.  lol. 

I'm still waiting for a few people to disagree.......(Jeopardy Music)