how does totalitarian gun control work?

Started by mkd, July 09, 2022, 08:18 AM

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mkd

Gun controller score in Japan this week=0
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neurosis

I'm not sure that Japan is a great Country to use as the example for the argument against gun control?  :lol: 
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mkd

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Matthew Hajicek

Wow.  Judging from that picture, the guy didn't even have shotshells.  He made two black powder cannons with electric ignition.  That would explain why the first shot was weak and smoky; but he used redundancy and got the job done.

neurosis

Quote from: mkd on July 09, 2022, 08:42 AMCome back and say something meaningful, when you are sure.

Meaningful is relative.  Japan is a bad example. 

I'm sure that culture plays a big part in the statistics. 


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Take gang warfare out of that stat where 99.9% of the firearm homicides take place and we are probably closer to Japan than Chile.
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neurosis

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on July 09, 2022, 11:59 AMTake gang warfare out of that stat where 99.9% of the firearm homicides take place and we are probably closer to Japan than Chile.

I don't know for sure, but when you read that Japan has around 10 gun deaths per year, I have a hard time believing that. 

I'm willing to be educated on any subject. 

As a disclaimer, I'm not pushing in either direction - just saying that Japan probably isn't a great example.  There are probably better Countries to use as the exception to the rule?   


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mkd

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Quote from: neurosis on July 09, 2022, 01:07 PMI don't know for sure, but when you read that Japan has around 10 gun deaths per year, I have a hard time believing that. 

I'm willing to be educated on any subject. 

As a disclaimer, I'm not pushing in either direction - just saying that Japan probably isn't a great example.  There are probably better Countries to use as the exception to the rule? 



well, that's one way to argue it.
For the reasons you postulate id say the exact opposite. It's thee perfect argument against popular leftist people-control. In the most idealized homogeneous and comically obedient and safe population, you can off the prime minister with a gun created with your own hands. It blows up manufacture control. red flag laws, FBI background checks.
You can't legislate morality, bottom line. This is the most perfect example.
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mkd

IIRC, Japan has 15MPH speed laws....and they are followed :hairpull:
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RobertELee

I'll believe the number of GUN related murders just because its very difficult to get a gun in Japan. However if you actually look at the world HOMICIDE statistics they are still in the top 25 of developed countries. Just a few spots behind the US.

A tool is still a tool. You take the hammer from a carpenter he'll go find a rock to get the job done.

I also believe the mental and physical health in Japan is much better than most places so that helps keep their numbers down. 
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neurosis

Quote from: mkd on July 09, 2022, 01:19 PMwell, that's one way to argue it.
For the reasons you postulate id say the exact opposite. It's thee perfect argument against popular leftist people-control. In the most idealized homogeneous and comically obedient and safe population, you can off the prime minister with a gun created with your own hands. It blows up manufacture control. red flag laws, FBI background checks.
You can't legislate morality, bottom line. This is the most perfect example.

Humor me for a minute and try not to get pissed at me. 

How often do you think anyone from their country worries about getting shot down at a parade, or their kids getting murdered in their schools?  You're using a single example and using it as an excuse to make an argument. Not criticizing because I 'sora' get the point that you're trying to make. You can't compare the two Countries, right? 



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mkd

Quote from: neurosis on July 09, 2022, 02:25 PMHumor me for a minute and try not to get pissed at me. 

How often do you think anyone from their country worries about getting shot down at a parade, or their kids getting murdered in their schools?  You're using a single example and using it as an excuse to make an argument. Not criticizing because I 'sora' get the point that you're trying to make. You can't compare the two Countries, right? 




I'd hazard a guess that it wouldn't be anymore frequent than your average citizen here in the US so long as you're not in Democrat controlled known shitholes of Chic-a-go, Baltimore, Camden NJ or a gun free elementary school.
 in the 80's McDonald and the post office were favorite places for Democrats to shoot-up. So targets change.

 Compare the two countries? The culture and crime rates are way different. The US doesn't have a designated suicide forest, like Japan does.
 Lies, Damn lies, and statistics. .. your chart posted was honestly tweaked to produce an outcome..which gives a false impression. US is barely in the top 10 and would be much much better if those shithole localities weren't actively trying to destroy black culture...AND that's where the US has 48% of the worlds firearms. Why you not give some stats of murders per 100,000 guns? because agenda.

mkd

Quote from: neurosis on July 09, 2022, 01:07 PMI don't know for sure, but when you read that Japan has around 10 gun deaths per year, I have a hard time believing that. 


So what's the stats on that, 100%??????
since there are like 10 legal citizen gun owners in the country and 10 gun deaths... you're making USA look great.

neurosis

Quote from: mkd on July 09, 2022, 02:54 PMI'd hazard a guess that it wouldn't be anymore frequent than your average citizen here in the US so long as you're not in Democrat controlled known shitholes of Chic-a-go, Baltimore, Camden NJ or a gun free elementary school.

Uvalde?
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neurosis

Quote from: mkd on July 09, 2022, 03:00 PMSo what's the stats on that, 100%??????
since there are like 10 legal citizen gun owners in the country and 10 gun deaths... you're making USA look great.

Are  you sure? :D
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