Parler is Gone...

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Maybe some of the executives are actually even a little patriotic.

no they are scared of the coming purges, the woke mob, the big tech/Dem party alliance and the Lincoln Project blacklists ... and they should be..

[Jon@NOWHERE]

All well and good except for their obvious bias against the right. How many times has Trump been called a fascist or a Nazi? Turns out, they should have talking about Facebook and Twitter.
And you know I'm  not a Trump fan.

Bias?

The "right" is a bunch of brainwashed terrorists who devour lies, propaganda, and conspiracy theories. Saying so isn't being biased.

Yes, I'm sure there is some of that on the left also but it's a staple of the "right."

And Trump is a fascist. Or at the least a wanna be fascist.

fascism

noun
(sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

Social media was the driving force to organize this summer's fiery, but mostly peaceful protests that resulted in over $2 billion in property damage and 15 deaths.

They didn't suddenly develop a conscience.

They just picked a side.

I'd say they were forced to pick a side.

I've been reading a lot of companies and individuals are pulling their support from Trump, the Republicans who voted to not ratify the election, and individuals who apparently encourage radicals to tear down the country. Those people storming the capitol are a big deal.

Hell no they don't have a conscience but they do know when changes in the country are going in a direction that isn't good for future business.

Maybe some of the executives are actually even a little patriotic. That sounds crazy to me too but maybe....

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And you call people on the right nuts....

[Sharles]

no they are scared of the coming purges, the woke mob, the big tech/Dem party alliance and the Lincoln Project blacklists ... and they should be..

I agree.

Smit, I normally give you the benefit of the doubt, but I think you are being naïve if you think the Left isn't as delusional and brainwashed as the many of the sheeple on the Right with the Woke and PC crowd trying to tear down EVERYTHING this nation was built on. Did we and do we still have problems? Of course, and I'm all for rectifying them, but the Progressive desire to completely remake our country is honestly a little scary because I would bet my life they won't do nearly as good a job as our Founding Fathers despite their warts.

I read an article on Fox yesterday where Angela Merkle from Germany said she found Trump's ban on Twitter 'problematic.' I guess over there they have national standards for social media and do NOT allow the tech giants to impose their own Left-leaning ones on everyone. Sounded like a better solution, imo...

[Smit]

And you call people on the right nuts....

This is Jons spirit animal

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Smit, I normally give you the benefit of the doubt, but I think you are being naïve if you think the Left isn't as delusional and brainwashed as the many of the sheeple on the Right with the Woke and PC crowd trying to tear down EVERYTHING this nation was built on. Did we and do we still have problems? Of course, and I'm all for rectifying them, but the Progressive desire to completely remake our country is honestly a little scary because I would bet my life they won't do nearly as good a job as our Founding Fathers despite their warts.

I read an article on Fox yesterday where Angela Merkle from Germany said she found Trump's ban on Twitter 'problematic.' I guess over there they have national standards for social media and do NOT allow the tech giants to impose their own Left-leaning ones on everyone. Sounded like a better solution, imo...

Sharles always trying to be in the middle.

I don't even know what you are talking about. What is the "left"  actually trying to do to tear down EVERYTHING this nation was built on?

Is it the crazy list of demands that popped  up in Portland or Seattle that has absolutely zero chance of even being taken seriously?

You talk in the vague generalities without making any points. So let's get specific. What is Biden and the left going to do that rivals what the nut jobs on the right are trying to do which is turn this country into a fascist state?

Are you denying the lies and propaganda being put forth by Trump, his cronies, and the right wing media?

Stop the steal? Qanon? Massive voter fraud with no evidence? A pedophile ring trying to take power in the U.S.?

I try to give you the benefit of the doubt too but you need to quit trying so hard to please the "right" by being "reasonable" "open minded"  and "sympathetic to their cause" and just being honest.

Maybe you missed the part where Trump incited a bunch of brainwashed morons to storm the capitol to try to prevent the peaceful transfer of power?

[Jim at Gentex]

People protesting the capitol, entering.. then getting attacked by cops.. kind of.

Yeah...like Ashli Babbit was "kind of" attacked by Capitol Police.
She's dead you fkin moron.

ZERO coverage in the MSM...ZERO
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jan/6/ashli-babbit-identified-air-force-vet-killed-capit/">https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... led-capit/">https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jan/6/ashli-babbit-identified-air-force-vet-killed-capit/

When you were defending the BLM protests, everyone here said the actual peaceful protesters had every right to be heard, and the few troublemakers who were responsible for the violence should be held accountable.

I don't know anyone here who said differently.

Now we have a similar situation where the vast majority of people there were not violent, but the whole group are being portrayed as domestic terrorists.  Pathetic.

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Micheal Yon interview about Jan 6

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[neurosis]

Is it the crazy list of demands that popped  up in Portland or Seattle that has absolutely zero chance of even being taken seriously?

They're implementing some of those demands in Seattle/King County.  

They are working on a poverty defense for small crimes in Seattle. Meaning that if you can prove that you are a drug addict or poor, you can use that as a defense for committing small crimes like theft etc as long as the crime is a misdemeanor.  

They've also already started de-funding the police. Even while crime rates in the Seattle area have been up.

King County Executive Dow Constantine is proposing to phase out use of the county's jail in downtown Seattle which houses the second highest number of inmates in the area.  

They may not be taking those demands serious everywhere, but some may be taking them more seriously than you think.

[Dan_AKA_ROY23]

Sharles always trying to be in the middle.

Is that a terrible thing? Our nation right now needs more people like Sharles. BOTH sides are fanning the flames of civil unrest. Unity > Division. We need to calm down. Find common ground. Liberals are as much or more at fault than conservatives. What does the renewed impeachment hearings started by the House accomplish? Let it go. Your guy won. Let him do his '100 days in office agenda'. Reports saying even Biden doesn't want impeachment. Nothing good would come out of it.

[Sharles]

Sharles always trying to be in the middle.

I don't even know what you are talking about. What is the "left"  actually trying to do to tear down EVERYTHING this nation was built on?

Is it the crazy list of demands that popped  up in Portland or Seattle that has absolutely zero chance of even being taken seriously?

You talk in the vague generalities without making any points. So let's get specific. What is Biden and the left going to do that rivals what the nut jobs on the right are trying to do which is turn this country into a fascist state?

Are you denying the lies and propaganda being put forth by Trump, his cronies, and the right wing media?

Stop the steal? Qanon? Massive voter fraud with no evidence? A pedophile ring trying to take power in the U.S.?

I try to give you the benefit of the doubt too but you need to quit trying so hard to please the "right" by being "reasonable" "open minded"  and "sympathetic to their cause" and just being honest.

Maybe you missed the part where Trump incited a bunch of brainwashed morons to storm the capitol to try to prevent the peaceful transfer or power?

LOL, you got me...sometimes I feel like a contortionist trying to thread that middle ground, trying to call out inconsistencies on both sides...trying to point out places where I find 'the other side' reasonable, trying NOT to fall into my baser desires to flat out call people liars, idiots and morons for believing some of the stuff they do...because I'm not perfect by any means, and it's really tiring to always try to look at an issue from another perspective to see if maybe I'm not seeing things as well as I think, and I know I fail in that effort all too often...

Let's just say that the 'Age of Trump' is what finally pushed me completely into the independent camp. I still didn't vote for Biden or Hillary, but I voted more D's last fall than I ever have before, especially on state and local levels where they aren't nearly so strident or beholden to whackos from the Far Left, like AOC.

But most of my friends and family ARE from stridently Right positions, and if I become ugly with them, then I will have zero hope of influencing them even a little.

If you haven't seen me arguing fully against Parler on this thread and fully supporting its removal for its unwillingness to moderate the outspoken calls for violence, you haven't been watching. Nor have I backed down at all calling out those who support the riot on the Capitol or who have tried to blame it on BLM/ANTIFA 'infiltrators' despite the COMPLETE lack of evidence other than "I knew somebody there" or "I heard it on a far-right wing news source" I have argued elsewhere against the 'mass voter fraud' baloney,

...but I do admit, I try to be generic on some things where my knowledge is much more sketchy or just because I don't have time here at work to always back it up with links from multiple sources to try to show what I'm suggesting is not just based on some obscure person sitting in his room with a tinfoil hat on... :geek: and yes, I'll admit that I still fall back into my Right-wing tropes that I used for most of my 53-year life...and so I apologize when I do that...it's hard work being a 'rino' and 'fence sitter' and 'someone unable to take a stand on an issue'

[TylerBeer]

[quote="Jim at gentex" post_id=3116 time=1610463374 user_id=83]

People protesting the capitol, entering.. then getting attacked by cops.. kind of.

Yeah...like Ashli Babbit was "kind of" attacked by Capitol Police.
She's dead you fkin moron.

ZERO coverage in the MSM...ZERO
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jan/6/ashli-babbit-identified-air-force-vet-killed-capit/">https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... led-capit/">https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jan/6/ashli-babbit-identified-air-force-vet-killed-capit/

When you were defending the BLM protests, everyone here said the actual peaceful protesters had every right to be heard, and the few troublemakers who were responsible for the violence should be held accountable.

I don't know anyone here who said differently.

Now we have a similar situation where the vast majority of people there were not violent, but the whole group are being portrayed as domestic terrorists.  Pathetic.
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Yeah kind of, she was killed, and that's unfortunate, but half of the people were just let into the building - so yeah, kind of, you fucking moron.

And you kept saying you supported peaceful protests but wouldn't believe they were actually happening.

Talk more out of both sides if your mouth why don't you, dipshit.

[Smit]

They're implementing some of those demands in Seattle/King County.  

They are working on a poverty defense for small crimes in Seattle. Meaning that if you can prove that you are a drug addict or poor, you can use that as a defense for committing small crimes like theft etc as long as the crime is a misdemeanor.  

They've also already started de-funding the police. Even while crime rates in the Seattle area have been up.

King County Executive Dow Constantine is proposing to phase out use of the county's jail in downtown Seattle which houses the second highest number of inmates in the area.  

They may not be taking those demands serious everywhere, but some may be taking them more seriously than you think.

I don't really follow what's happening in Seattle so I'm not going to comment much on it. I can assure you that's not happening anywhere near where I'm at. But grabbing something that's happening in a small part of the U.S. or something an individual says or does and using that wide brush to paint everybody else is way too common.

Is that a terrible thing? Our nation right now needs more people like Sharles. BOTH sides are fanning the flames of civil unrest. Unity > Division. We need to calm down. Find common ground.

Not a bad thing at all. I was just saying keep it real.

[neurosis]

I don't really follow what's happening in Seattle so I'm not going to comment much on it. I can assure you that's not happening anywhere near where I'm at. But grabbing something that's happening in a small part of the U.S. or something an individual says or does and using that wide brush to paint everybody else is way too common.

I know you don't. You've said that before.    

But these policies are becoming more popular with this new generation of progressive politicians. There are what, 13 cities now that have latched on to this de-fund the police movement? Progressives aren't exclusive to Seattle and Portland.

[Del.]

Smit said what is the left trying to do to tear down everything this country was built on.  

Answer..... Just look at ANY Democratic run city.

[Smit]

I know you don't. You've said that before.    

But these policies are becoming more popular with this new generation of progressive politicians. There are what, 13 cities now that have latched on to this de-fund the police movement? Progressives aren't exclusive to Seattle and Portland.

Changes are coming to the police force. And they should.

De-fund is a generic term that makes it sound like the police are going to be abolished and that's just not so.

[Del.]

I know you don't. You've said that before.    

But these policies are becoming more popular with this new generation of progressive politicians. There are what, 13 cities now that have latched on to this de-fund the police movement? Progressives aren't exclusive to Seattle and Portland.

Changes are coming to the police force. And they should.

De-fund is a generic term that makes it sound like the police are going to be abolished and that's just not so.

That's just stupid.