Biden/Harris 2024

[mkd]

remember when our elected leaders had oratory skills?....that was awesome.

You confuse Lewinsky

[Smit]

There is no lesser of those two evils.

See my thread about higher credit ratings having to pay more for their mortgages.  How is that *better*?

I think there clearly is but yeah, the penalty for higher credit seems pretty messed up.

I would be more likely to believe you if I didn't read reddit.   

I'll have to check Reddit out some time to see what you're seeing. This is the only social media site I really go to. I do have Facebook but I unfollow anybody who gets too political. Or otherwise annoying.

[neurosis]

I'll have to check Reddit out some time to see what you're seeing. This is the only social media site I really go to. I do have Facebook but I unfollow anybody who gets too political. Or otherwise annoying.

I read reddit for all kinds of things.  From tech help, product reviews, local news, other interests. Most of the popular sub-reddits are very liberal. If you vote republican, you are a racist, bigot, fascist. Period.

[JParis]

I'm sure Dominion will use your votes, even if you don't use your one....
 

Doesn't matter either way really...my vote hasn't counted for years

[YoDoug]

I believe Biden win but from overwhelming early voting and mail in ballots. I don't think there was fraud.

You are in the minority. 60% of polled voters think election fraud is very real effects outcomes.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/biden_administration/election_integrity_most_voters_suspect_fraud

[beej]

Both of those things are right wing media stuff. They get you to hate the queers and then they get you to believe everybody thinks you're a bigot for hating people so you play your white grievance card. 

I was never allowed to use the word "queer" when I was growing up. It was considered a slur. I can't believe that it can be used now.

Why does the left so often equate disagreement with hate? There are all kinds of people doing things I disagree with, living lifestyles that even repulse me sometimes, but to say that I hate them would be a real stretch.

[beej]

You are in the minority. 60% of polled voters think election fraud is very real effects outcomes.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/biden_administration/election_integrity_most_voters_suspect_fraud

Isn't that pretty much the only poll you have believed in the last 7 years?

[CADCAM396]

I received my moms mail in ballot after she passed away.
not even my two votes counted. lol

and dont even get me started on non citizen votes...  who ya think they voting for? not trump the wall builder..

[YoDoug]

Isn't that pretty much the only poll you have believed in the last 7 years?

Statistically they have been one of the more accurate pollsters. Even if you say they are normally 5%-7% off, that still means more than half the people polled believe election fraud is real and changes outcomes.

[MIL-TFP-41]

Biden wants Trump to get the nomination. He (or his handlers) know that Trump is a weak candidate & will insure Biden a victory.
He lost in 2018, 2020, and 2022. Claim fraud all you want, end result is he lost.

I will never sit out an election. I will stick with whatever Libertarian candidate they put up. Hopefully enough people will think 3rd party to get a decent showing.

[beej]

Statistically they have been one of the more accurate pollsters. Even if you say they are normally 5%-7% off, that still means more than half the people polled believe election fraud is real and changes outcomes.

Well, I guess it is real and it does change elections. One here in Missouri, a Democrat St Louis Representative was going door to door filling out ballots for herself. She won that election by about 10-15 votes. It was found out that she had voted for herself by helping illiterate people fill out their ballot. But it was all proved in the court of law and there were witnesses that testified and she was indicted for it and there was a new election.

I'm still waiting for the 7 million people who meant to vote for Trump but had their ballot changed without their consent to testify in court.

[YoDoug]

I'm still waiting for the 7 million people who meant to vote for Trump but had their ballot changed without their consent to testify in court.

Not sure if you are serious or just trolling with that.

Mounds of evidence of tens of thousands of illegitimate voters on bloated voter rolls were used to insert fraudulent mail-in-votes.

[mowens]

If you truly believe there's no difference that's fine, but if you think there is you should hold your nose and vote for the lesser of the two evils.... just like the rest of us do!

I'll go back to my "what color rope do you want to be hung with". The consequences of electing either of those too will be equally bad, albeit in different ways.

[beej]

Not sure if you are serious or just trolling with that.

Mounds of evidence of tens of thousands of illegitimate voters on bloated voter rolls were used to insert fraudulent mail-in-votes.

Mounds of evidence. MOUNDS! So far I've seen a documentary and a report out of Arizona, none of which convinced me that "the man I voted for" actually won.  See, I 'm not a never Trumper. I'm just a skeptic from Missouri which is the "SHOW ME" state. just show me the evidence. Documentaries are blah, blah, blah. Anybody can put together a documentary. Michael Moore can put together a documentary.  Show me the mounds of evidence. I voted for the man, I wanted him to win!! I just don't believe that he did. But if someone could give me something real, maybe I'll buy in. but here we are in 2023 and nobody has put together a legal case for it yet.

[MIL-TFP-41]

Mounds of evidence. MOUNDS! So far I've seen a documentary and a report out of Arizona, none of which convinced me that "the man I voted for" actually won.  See, I 'm not a never Trumper. I'm just a skeptic from Missouri which is the "SHOW ME" state. just show me the evidence. Documentaries are blah, blah, blah. Anybody can put together a documentary. Michael Moore can put together a documentary.  Show me the mounds of evidence. I voted for the man, I wanted him to win!! I just don't believe that he did. But if someone could give me something real, maybe I'll buy in. but here we are in 2023 and nobody has put together a legal case for it yet.

The my pillow 70's porn looking guy had proof. Put up $5,000,000 to anyone who could prove him wrong. Oh wait....