Trump says on Truth Social he’s been indicted in classified docs probe?

Started by neurosis, June 08, 2023, 04:47 PM

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mkd

Yep when the IRS comes knocking and says there is nothing to worry about, they just need a questions answered you can rest assured there is nothing to worry about.

every potus leaves with docs. crickets
pence left with docs we found out after he condemned trump for doing it. crickets
Biden garage docs. crickets.
biden crime family payoffs and bribes. crickets.

but Trump is the Moron guilty one. Sorry. can't follow that logic
i'ma gonna try to STFU now. lol
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Jim at Gentex

Trump is vilified for simply breathing at this point.
That is the level of hatred directed toward him.

It is sad that we have reached such a low point in US political history, but here we are.
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MIL-TFP-41

Quote from: mkd on June 14, 2023, 11:06 AMAs the preeminent LEO he has every right to tell subordinate un-elected bureaucracies to pound sand.

He wasn't the "preeminent LEO" when they asked for the doc's back.

mkd

Quote from: MIL-TFP-41 on June 14, 2023, 11:46 AMHe wasn't the "preeminent LEO" when they asked for the doc's back.
He deemed them unclassified in the capacity of POTUS, end of story.
plus made the incantation: 'no take-backs'

MIL-TFP-41

Quote from: mkd on June 14, 2023, 11:51 AMHe deemed them unclassified in the capacity of POTUS, end of story.
Ok then, why did he say, on a recording, that they were classified?

Like I said earlier, I would hope there is a more robust system of de-classifying documents other than one person pointing at a box & saying "that shit is unclassified"
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neurosis

Quote from: Jim at Gentex on June 14, 2023, 11:42 AMTrump is vilified for simply breathing at this point.
That is the level of hatred directed toward him.

What I don't understand, is Trump knows that. It's not like it's some new revelation. It's been going on since 2016. Why would he intentionally put himself in the crosshairs? You'd think that he would do everything he could to cover his butt at this point.

If I'm driving the same way to work every day and get pulled over by the same cop for doing 5mph over the speed limit, I'm either going to go a different way, stop speeding, or both. I'm not going to just keep driving that same route doing 5mph over and saying "why am I the only one getting a ticket here"? 

For a guy who everyone keeps calling "an evil genius", I have my doubts. 
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

mkd

Quote from: MIL-TFP-41 on June 14, 2023, 11:55 AMOk then, why did he say, on a recording, that they were classified?

Like I said earlier, I would hope there is a more robust system of de-classifying documents other than one person pointing at a box & saying "that shit is unclassified"
you realize there are over a billion classified documents 'held' buy the bureaucracy, right?
yeah, when that one person is the most powerful duly elected official in the world, we're good.

(failing at STFU lol)

MIL-TFP-41

Quote from: mkd on June 14, 2023, 12:00 PMyou realize there are over a billion classified documents 'held' buy the bureaucracy, right?
yeah, when that one person is the most powerful duly elected official in the world, we're good.

So you are OK with dementia Joe having that power? How about Reagan in his later years? I don't think either one has/had the mental capacity to decide what is OK to declassify.
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Jim at Gentex

I think it is just a matter of Trump being Trump.

I wouldn't exactly call him an 'evil genius', but I do know the country was in much better shape than it is now.

Yeah, sometimes Trump is his own worst enemy, but even in spite of that he still managed to get elected as POTUS, so he somehow manages to dodge his own land mines.  :lol:
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mkd

Quote from: MIL-TFP-41 on June 14, 2023, 12:04 PMSo you are OK with dementia Joe having that power? How about Reagan in his later years? I don't think either one has/had the mental capacity to decide what is OK to declassify.
As if an unelected buracracy's power Trumps an elected president. That's an 'interesting' premise.

the stupid shit that the FEDs classify? Yeah i'm good with that.
What really happened to JFK that is still classified, im good with that.

CNCAppsJames

Quote from: JParis on June 14, 2023, 02:40 AMI don't think that is correct...it covers, different people, different dates and different documents...possessing them isn't his biggest problem. The biggest problem was him sharing them with others. I think that's what is going to bite him the hardest.

James, I think you'll agree at this point....the indictment is damning in all the details?
No more/no less than any other POTUS or  Killary. I know, I know, I know... "they did it too" isn't a defense, and it's not, however, the fact remains, they did but he's  getting nailed for it...  

AND Judicial Watch v. National Archives IS precedent and THAT matters more than all those indictments. 
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mkd

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on June 14, 2023, 12:23 PM"they did it too" isn't a defense, and it's not
'Precedence' is certainly a highly regarded concept in the Judicial branch.
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neurosis

Quote from: mkd on June 14, 2023, 12:35 PM'Precedence' is certainly a highly regarded concept in the Judicial branch.

Roe V Wade cough cough.   :sofa:   :lol: 
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neurosis

Our government is so upside down right now that I can only see it getting worse.  Hopefully the Country doesn't fall completely apart until I'm too old to care. 
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

mowens

He's being charged with violating a law that he signed into being.

Of course it's political theater.

If they were just in his possession I don't think this would have happened.
But he shouldn't have been showing classified documents to a reporter (allegedly) or anybody else that wasn't cleared with a need to know. It's like handing your enemy a gun and saying "here, shoot me".
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