The COVID JAB UPDATED POLL

[neurosis]

Seems to me that .gov and big pharma are the ones with the agenda. 

I'm sure that the Democrats won't at all mind Republican voters turning anti vax.    Maybe *that* is the conspiracy? 

I don't think that anyone questions that the CDC, FDA, or politicians in general, are in the pocket of big pharma. When I read people debating RFK Jr, that's never been debated. It's always been more of a risk vs benefit for vaccinations. I've never had the flu vax and would never get one. I don't see the reward being worth the risks.

I know that RFK Jr say's that he's not anti vax and uses the fact that he's had his kids vaxed as proof, but he contradicts himself when he say's the only reason he had them vaxed is because he didn't have the info at the time.  Knowing what you know now, if you had to to it all over, would you get your children vaccinated?

[Jim at Gentex]

Knowing what you know now, if you had to to it all over, would you get your children vaccinated?

Yes.
I'm not anti-vax either.

I am anti-THIS-vax, or more generally mRNA vaxxes et al...

The issue gets convoluted when we start using negative terms like 'anti-vaxxer' to describe those who have legitimate questions about this mRNA technology that was rolled out on a GLOBAL scale with ZERO long-term test data.

Now, many of the legit PhD's in the fields of immunology and virology who raised concerns and were MUZZLED by .gov and the media are seeing that the issues they predicted would follow are now a reality.

Example:
Dr. Sherry Tenpenny stated very early on that the mRNA vaccines would trigger an increase in Bells Palsy.
She was labeled an anti-vaxxer and promptly ignored by .gov and the media, who in fact, attempted to discredit her.

Here is the result:
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/bells-palsy-cases-covid-cola/

CDC monitoring Bell's palsy as potential safety signal

The indications are that Bell's palsy is potentially a "safety signal," which is an adverse event that may need further investigation, as there is information to suggest it's caused by the administration of a medication or vaccine.

[neurosis]

I am anti-THIS-vax, or more generally mRNA vaxxes et al...

Ok, So am I sorta.  I wouldn't get it again for myself but I would never try to convince someone else not to.

Mandating the covid vax was a big mistake IMO. At the same time, do we know that it didn't prevent deaths in elderly or people who were otherwise just unhealthy to begin with? 

I think that the conversation is getting a little polluted in that, at least to me, being anti covid vax, and being anti vax in general, are not the same thing, yet both conversations are going on a the same time.   

My fault for crossing them in a thread about covid.

[Jim at Gentex]

No worries.

Healthy discussion is a good thing, but sometimes we just need to define our terms.

I said from the beginning that there were legit experts who were being discredited and deliberately muzzled, and THAT more than anything is cause for concern.

Sure .gov and the media will say they were only trying to prevent the spread of 'misinformation', but who gets to decide what constitutes 'misinformation'?

How can anyone rightly make an informed decision on ANYTHING without hearing legitimately opposing viewpoints?

Just telling us to 'shut up and roll up your sleeve' didn't cut it for me. 

[Smit]

My fault for crossing them in a thread about covid.

Troublemaker. 

[neurosis]

Troublemaker.

I can't help it.  It gets confusing to me because quite a few people who became anti covid vax, soon seemingly became anti almost every vax because they started going down the anti-vaxer rabbit hole. Weird that this is only a thing with conservatives?

[RobertELee]

Weird that this is only a thing with conservatives?

Weird that the first two I think of are registered democrats. KennedyJr and Rogan....

[Smit]

I (we) don't use them that much....there was a prog I watched (UK BBC or channel 4) 15 years ago now. It was about cell phones and cancer and I remember a Murrican surgeon who said he was taking out lumps behind kids ears (phone held up to their head too long) and lumps from above young girls breasts (10+ year old - the blouse pocket where they carried their phone). He said, it was unprecedented.
He was adamant phone damage would be larger than tobacco....
This, will not be allowed to surface. It will never be fully reported.
Because the web grid (surveillance), is critical to the UN going forwards.

So that shit is all over the place and we just haven't noticed?

Cell phone cancer is everywhere and we just haven't noticed?

Larger than tobacco and we just haven't noticed?

[neurosis]

Weird that the first two I think of are registered democrats. KennedyJr and Rogan....

Take a few minutes to read a conservative forum vs a democrat forum and you'll see what I mean.  Also, left media vs right media.

[RobertELee]

Take a few minutes to read a conservative forum vs a democrat forum and you'll see what I mean.  Also, left media vs right media.

Can't be censorship or ad revenue being to blame. Nope none of that going on.

[Shazam/TPP]

MRNA, Almost like injecting a disinfectant into your body, 

[neurosis]

So....I had 5 mins to do a little digging about this.
Does this (50?) seem right to you?

You're asking a person who doesn't have children. 

Which of those would you not get for your children?

[RobertELee]

So....I had 5 mins to do a little digging about this.
Does this (50?) seem right to you?
Edit:- This is actually a couple of years out of date (2020) - it's now 38 jabs by 6 years
https://www.iowaclinic.com/primary-care/specialties/pediatrics/every-vaccine-your-child-needs-from-birth-to-graduation/

It's not 38 jabs, it's 38(or more) doses. There may be half dozen doses of different vax types in each jab. They use Ethylmercury as a preservative to prevent bacteria and mold development in the mixture.

[CNCAppsJames]

You're asking a person who doesn't have children. 

Which of those would you not get for your children?

For our kids we went with Polio, MMR (Measles, Mumps, Rubella), and Small Pox. Nothing else AFAI can recall. Which is what we got as kids. 

[neurosis]

For our kids

How do you guys feel about the HPV vax? 

I've read (and listened) to enough about it recently that it would be one of those worrisome vaccinations.