Misinformation police

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Jim at Gentex

QuoteHe suggested all Biden had done was shake hands and chat with Pozharskyi at a public event.

Well if Hunter's laptop is real, which I think is beyond doubt at this point since even the NYT FINALLY admitted it was, there is a pic on there of Joe and Hunter playing golf with two Burisma bigwigs.

Anyone who believes they didn't discuss A WORD of business during that golf outing is astoundingly naive.
So yeah, Joe Biden LIED TO OUR FACES when he said he never discussed his son's business dealings.

In my opinion, the whole Biden Administration has been NOTHING BUT misinformation from day one... :yes:
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Smit

Quote from: beej on August 11, 2023, 07:35 AMare you convinced that the Hunter Biden's laptop story is misinformation? Worthy of suppression?

That the laptop belonged to Hunter Biden has proven to be true.

There is still a shit ton of (we'll call it) uncertain information surrounding the laptop and what's on it. Some of it will undoubtedly be proven to be misinformation in time. Some of it may prove to be truth.
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Smit

Don't you have a twitter source for that shit Frenchy?

beej

Quote from: Smit on August 11, 2023, 08:32 AMThat the laptop belonged to Hunter Biden has proven to be true.

There is still a shit ton of (we'll call it) uncertain information surrounding the laptop and what's on it. Some of it will undoubtedly be proven to be misinformation in time. Some of it may prove to be truth.

So far as I'm aware, nothing on the laptop has proven to be unauthentic, unless you've heard something, that I've missed.

Quote from: Smit on August 11, 2023, 08:32 AMSome of it will undoubtedly be proven to be misinformation in time.

what's your basis for that? Hope springs eternal, I guess ;)



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Smit

Quote from: beej on August 11, 2023, 09:15 AMSo far as I'm aware, nothing on the laptop has proven to be unauthentic, unless you've heard something, that I've missed.

You're gonna have to be more specific.

There is a lot of shit going around the right wing "news" media with a lot of "allegations" that haven't been proven, even though the majority of Republican voters are eager to believe them.
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mkd

Quote from: beej on August 11, 2023, 07:31 AMwould we even know about Richard Nixon's shenanigans if he had been a democrat? I'm convinced that the Washington post would have hushed the story if they would have uncovered it at all.
Nope; we now know that CIA false flag of ransacking the watergate hotel with that 'deep-throat' media troll as the precursor to Jim Acosta playing along to promote it, came just after Nixon told the CIA head that he knew who killed JFK.
 Same script as J6 soap opera.
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mkd

Quote from: Smit on August 11, 2023, 09:19 AMYou're gonna have to be more specific.

There is a lot of shit going around the right wing "news" media with a lot of "allegations" that haven't been proven, even though the majority of Republican voters are eager to believe them.
Since you know a negative can't be proven and why you said it that way, intsead, how 'bout you come up with something more specific to disprove the info contained in 'laptop from hell'
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Jim at Gentex

Yeah, right...
Now *some* of the laptop info is credible.  :rolleyes:

Only the bits that make Daddy Joe, a.k.a., 'The Big Guy' look bad will never be accepted by the left wing as part of the whole legit package.

The Dems wasted four whole years doing nothing but investigating Trump, and all they came up with were two sham impeachments.

You want specifics?
Do y'all remember when Hunter's former business partner Tony Bobulinski came forward with information about Hunter and Joe's business dealings before the 2020 election?
He was dismissed and labeled a crackpot by the MSM.

Now that *some* of the laptop data has been verified, why hasn't Tony been called to testify, like at Hunter's Grand Jury?

ALL of those emails that he claimed were sent between himself and Hunter can EASILY be corroborated by the metadata, yet the FBI continues to sit on their hands.

It's pathetic and disgraceful.  :no:
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beej

Quote from: Smit on August 11, 2023, 09:19 AMYou're gonna have to be more specific.

There is a lot of shit going around the right wing "news" media with a lot of "allegations" that haven't been proven, even though the majority of Republican voters are eager to believe them.

Well, ok:
Tony Bubolinski and Devon Archer have both testified that "the Big Guy" is Joe Biden. Some of the media originally said that the emails that said that were just a little too convenient to be believed.

Devon Archer confirmed that Joe Biden is "the brand" that they were selling.

Devon archer confirmed that Joe Biden knew what their business was about. (Something that Joe Biden denied saying I never talk about business with Hunter, but now simply says, he was never in business with Hunter)

Joe Biden has said that their family has never made money from China. The emails on the laptop said otherwise, and now testimony and bank records show that they (Hunter and 8 other Bidens including grandchildren) did in fact get several million from China.

Laptop emails showed that Hunter got 3.5 million from the widow of the former mayor of Moscow. CNN fact checkers are still saying that the money went to Rosemont Seneca Thornton, and Hunter never owned RST. He owned Rosemont seneca Partners and Rosemont Seneca Bohai. But bank records show that RST received the 3.5million, paid it to Rosemont Seneca Bohai and then quickly dissolved.  Rosemont Seneca Thornton was owned by James Bulger, Whitey Bulger's nephew and namesake (you can't make this stuff up) Hunter and Bulger had other business ventures as well.

I could go on but this response is getting long
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Smit

Quote from: mkd on August 11, 2023, 09:52 AMSince you know a negative can't be proven and why you said it that way, intsead, how 'bout you come up with something more specific to disprove the info contained in 'laptop from hell'

Why keep speaking generically about "the laptop from hell" instead of being specific about which "info" you want to talk about?

Smit

Quote from: Jim at Gentex on August 11, 2023, 10:01 AMNow *some* of the laptop info is credible.  :rolleyes:

That is actually quite wrong. Now you're talking "info."

The laptop belonged to Hunter, the "info" you speak of hasn't been verified. Hell, even you guys won't say what the "info" is. Just some vague referense to "info."

And that is pathetic and disgraceful.

Please.  :fish:
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Jim at Gentex

Quote from: Smit on August 11, 2023, 10:07 AMThat is actually quite wrong. Now you're talking "info."

The laptop belonged to Hunter, the "info" you speak of hasn't been verified. Hell, even you guys won't say what the "info" is. Just some vague referense to "info."

And that is pathetic and disgraceful.

Please.  :fish:

It CAN be verified quite easily, especially the emails, and everyone knows it.
Ever asked yourself WHY it HASN'T been verified by, say, the FBI, who have had possession of the laptop data for more than two years?

When we start getting answers to those kinds of questions, maybe we'll start getting somewhere.
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mkd

old Micro could do stinkbait better. ::)  ;D  ;D
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Smit

Quote from: Jim at Gentex on August 11, 2023, 10:11 AMIt CAN be verified quite easily, especially the emails, and everyone knows it.
Ever asked yourself WHY it HASN'T been verified by, say, the FBI, who have had possession of the laptop data for more than two years?

When we start getting answers to those kinds of questions, maybe we'll start getting somewhere.

I'd suggest that it has been verified but since it didn't yield the result righties wanted it was rejected with accusations of "deep state", corrupt DOJ, biased media, etc.

I know Republicans desperately want to believe that stuff but it's not like religion where faith is enough. You've gotta prove it.
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Jim at Gentex

Quote from: Smit on August 11, 2023, 11:05 AMI'd suggest that it has been verified but since it didn't yield the result righties wanted it was rejected with accusations of "deep state", corrupt DOJ, biased media, etc.

I know Republicans desperately want to believe that stuff but it's not like religion where faith is enough. You've gotta prove it.

You wouldn't believe it anyway no matter how much evidence there is.
Dems want as desperately to believe it is NOT TRUE, so there are two sides to every coin.

btw...Garland just announced he will appoint a Special Counsel to investigate the Hunter Biden case, so we will see how that goes.

I'm not too optimistic, but at least he is giving the appearance of doing his job.  :rolleyes:
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