Climate Experts Criticize Alarmist Rhetoric Over Summer Temperatures

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beej

https://www.dailywire.com/news/climate-alarmists-panic-over-heat-wave-turns-out-it-was-caused-by-a-volcano

QuoteWell, that somehow went unnoticed over at ABC News. An underwater volcano erupted in Tonga. It was so big you could see it from space. The entire west coast of the U.S. was put under a tsunami warning. According to NASA, which wrote up a detailed analysis of the event last August, the eruption caused a sonic boom that circled the globe twice. The eruption also "blasted an enormous plume of water vapor into Earth's stratosphere — enough to fill more than 58,000 Olympic-sized swimming pools," NASA says.

That's significant, because according to NASA, volcanic eruptions normally cool the planet, by emitting a lot of dust particles that reflect sunlight away from the planet. That didn't happen this time, and as one NASA scientist put it: "We've never seen anything like it."

What's the upshot? Well, water vapor traps heat. It's the single most abundant greenhouse gas that exists in the atmosphere. It's responsible for half of the greenhouse gas effect on the planet. So here was the prediction from NASA, as of last August. This is what they wrote. "The sheer amount of water vapor could be enough to temporarily affect Earth's global average temperature."


QuoteSeven months later, this past July, the research meteorologist Ryan Maue had this response to the fallout from the eruption. "Based upon the last few months, it seems the effect of [the eruption] on global temperatures may have been greatly underestimated."

Indeed, Ryan Maue was right. Just about two weeks ago, yet another paper came out on the eruption. This one was from researchers at Cal Tech's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. This paper found that the eruption sent 40 trillion gallons of seawater into the stratosphere — what the researchers called an "unprecedented water vapor injection." Last week, Dr. Robert Rohde, the lead scientist at the independent nonprofit Berkeley Earth, reviewed these recent findings. He concluded that, "As a powerful greenhouse gas, this water may have contributed to recent warming."

QuoteIn this case, the science is very inconvenient, from a political perspective, so they pretend it doesn't exist.
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CNCAppsJames

"40,000,000,000 gallons of seawster into the atmosphere"

Well THAT Is an inconvenient truth. 

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Tim Johnson

Quote from: Newbeeee™ on August 07, 2023, 02:18 PMThe Q is why did that melt SOOOO fast?
The youngerdryas is a thing, the ice rapidly melted is a thing.
Unsure of the meteor impact idea as where's all the craters?
But wadabout pole shift?
Quote from: RobertELee on August 07, 2023, 01:08 PMAnd half of the country was once covered in a mile thick glacier, oHhHhHh mEr gOd iTs cLiMaTe cHaNgE!!!!!!!!
My guess is we were hit by a comet. If it landed on ice it more than likely wouldn't have left a mark but it would have melted a lot of water including its own. I also think the massive runoff of the melted water collected dirt and rocks from the badlands and that dirt/rock water created the Grand canyon.
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Biden says he has 'practically' declared a climate emergency.......
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A Billion seconds is 31 Years
A Trillion seconds is 31,688 Years

beej

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on August 09, 2023, 07:22 AM"40,000,000,000 gallons of seawster into the atmosphere"

Well THAT Is an inconvenient truth.

:coffee:

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eh...free fiss 40,000,000,000,000
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YoDoug

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on August 09, 2023, 07:22 AM"40,000,000,000 gallons of seawster into the atmosphere"



While that is a large amount to go into the atmosphere in one shot, every year cars/transportation put about the same mass of cO2 into the atmosphere. The earth does reclaim some of that cO2 but there is a balance to be had and saying mankind can't offset that balance is just naïve.
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RobertELee

Quote from: Tim Johnson on August 09, 2023, 09:36 AMMy guess is we were hit by a comet. If it landed on ice it more than likely wouldn't have left a mark but it would have melted a lot of water including its own. I also think the massive runoff of the melted water collected dirt and rocks from the badlands and that dirt/rock water created the Grand canyon.

Google 'Carolina Bays'. They are elliptical shaped impressions along a huge portion of the east coast that most all have the same NorthWest orientation. Some have theorized they came from a comet/asteroid that hit the glaciers and spewed ice chunks across the eastern portion of the US. And since they were mostly ice chunks there is little to no evidence remaining.

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Del.

Kamala on climate change.

You see they call it climate change. Climate's changing brings climate change and if we don't change the climate then our climate will change

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Incogneeto

Quote from: Tim Johnson on August 09, 2023, 09:36 AMMy guess is we were hit by a comet. If it landed on ice it more than likely wouldn't have left a mark but it would have melted a lot of water including its own. I also think the massive runoff of the melted water collected dirt and rocks from the badlands and that dirt/rock water created the Grand canyon.

I watched a Documentary (Don't act Shocked I try to be Edumacated Like Del) :)

And they shot a bullet at a pad of Ice to prove the Theory.

I've reopened my Paypal and for a Nominal fee will forward the results.

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beej

Judith Curry is the woman who predicted extreme Hurricanes during global warming, and was humbled by her failed predictions. She has since been outspoken about climate alarmism and how we get alarmism in the first place.

this is an interesting blog about where the actual current predictions stand.
https://judithcurry.com/2023/07/08/how-much-warming-can-we-expect-in-the-21st-century/#more-30296

an interesting article about lunar influences in El Nino and La Nina
https://judithcurry.com/2023/07/18/the-2015-major-el-nino-was-predicted-years-in-advance-using-a-lunar-cycle/

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CNCAppsJames

The hubris of these "climatologists"/"scientists" is just. staggering.
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CNCAppsJames

Quote from: Incogneeto on August 11, 2023, 02:10 PM"OH MY GOD 13 FOOT WAVES IN CALI CAUSED BY CLIMATE CHANGE'!!

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"I SKIPPED SCHOOL FOR THIS"??
13'... that's a SMALL day at Mavericks, Waimea Bay, etc...

These idiots.... how have these mouth breathers not managed to die yet? Clearly we have WAY too many warning labels.

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