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Quote from: gcode on December 08, 2023, 09:06 AMIf you are on X (twitter), follow Micheal Yon.
He's ex Special Forces and has been working as a war correspondent for the last 30 years.
He's been spending a lot of time reporting from Central American and Panama.
He says the mass migration flooding our southern border is funded and controlled by various UN
and American agencies.
He also maintains that the Chines are engaged in a campaign to control the Panama Canal and that their efforts are
close to fruition.
Chinese control of the Panama Canal would completely alter the geopolitical power structure and the world economy.
Of course with all things X, it's really difficult to know what it true and what is total bullshit.


To determine plausibility, it would be completely reasonable to look at what China has already done and what is being planned out loud on the African Continent with regard to ports, resources, geo-politics, etc...

The plausibility is 100%.

By the time we know beyond a shadow of a doubt it's true, it will be too late.

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neurosis

Is there any chance that any of those people are tired of being oppressed and are just coming here for a better life and taking advantage of our current lax immigration policy??  Or is every immigrant attempting to overthrow the US?
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

gcode

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Quote from: neurosis on December 08, 2023, 11:21 AMIs there any chance that any of those people are tired of being oppressed and are just coming here for a better life and taking advantage of our current lax immigration policy??

I sure the majority of people coming over the border are exactly that, economic and political refuges looking for a better life.
I'm equally sure that some percentage of them are very bad news. Some will be run of the mill street gang gun thugs and such, some will be jihadi and other zealots on the run and others will be highly trained operatives of foreign governments who mean us harm.
Yon has stated most of the young Chinese males he meets on the trails in Panama speak excellent English, and are very fit and well spoken.
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mkd

good thing that fuckwit Jimmy Carter handed over the panama canal the WE BUILT.
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neurosis

Quote from: Newbeeeeâ„¢ on December 08, 2023, 11:57 AMIf they were coming from "war torn country"

I didn't say "war torn"  I just said oppressed.
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Del.

No other country in the world let's immigrants in like we do.

neurosis

Quote from: Del. on December 08, 2023, 12:46 PMNo other country in the world let's immigrants in like we do.

I'm not sure that is true, but maybe we should be holding the politicians on both sides accountable for using this as a political wedge to divide the Country rather than blaming the immigrants? 
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gcode

Quote from: mkd on December 08, 2023, 11:53 AMgood thing that fuckwit Jimmy Carter handed over the panama canal the WE BUILT.

I don't care if it was a PC/human rights thing to do or not.
It was one of the worst foreign policy decisions of the last century.
We used to keep a substantial number of US Army troops there, but now I think we only have a small
jungle warfare training base
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gcode

Quote from: neurosis on December 08, 2023, 12:58 PMblaming the immigrants?

I don't blame the immigrants. Most of us would do exactly the same thing if we were in their shoes.
I blame US politicians on both sides.
A wide open southern border is not in the best interests of the United States or the citizens of the United States
though that simple fact does not seem to carry much weight on either side of the isle.

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Del.

Quote from: neurosis on December 08, 2023, 12:58 PMI'm not sure that is true, but maybe we should be holding the politicians on both sides accountable for using this as a political wedge to divide the Country rather than blaming the immigrants? 

We can blame until the cows come home, but it's already biting this country in the ass. They weren't coming in like this under Trump. It's unsunstainable

mkd

Quote from: neurosis on December 08, 2023, 12:58 PMI'm not sure that is true, but maybe we should be holding the politicians on both sides accountable for using this as a political wedge to divide the Country rather than blaming the immigrants? 
leave it at not sure.

Political class is literally replacing YOUR VOTE with the world poor and needy, no and ifs or buts.
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mkd

Quote from: gcode on December 08, 2023, 01:14 PMI don't blame the immigrants. Most of us would do exactly the same thing if we were in their shoes.
I blame US politicians on both sides.
A wide open southern border is not in the best interests of the United States or the citizens of the United States
though that simple fact does not seem to carry much weight on either side of the isle.


I blame the commie schools convincing the youth that the best thing for the planet is to not reproduce and commit suicide.
 Immigration is the only reason we're not experiencing population collapse. Most immigration raises all boats, until it doesn't.

neurosis

Quote from: Del. on December 08, 2023, 01:29 PMThey weren't coming in like this under Trump.

True, but his policy was only temporary due to covid. They never changed anything meaningful.  Neither side ever does. 


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Incogneeto

Quote from: neurosis on December 08, 2023, 11:21 AMIs there any chance that any of those people are tired of being oppressed and are just coming here for a better life and taking advantage of our current lax immigration policy??  Or is every immigrant attempting to overthrow the US?

I Don't know.

Do you think the Liberal Crime policies will cause an increase in Crime???

Would you have an opportunity to make better money in Cali??

Are you confirming the border is open??

There are a few places in Cali that are sanctioned Gang territory.

I suggest you visit and access for yourself. :)

neurosis

Quote from: Incogneeto on December 08, 2023, 02:38 PMI Don't know.

Do you think the Liberal Crime policies will cause an increase in Crime???

Would you have an opportunity to make better money in Cali??

Are you confirming the border is open??

There are a few places in Cali that are sanctioned Gang territory.

I suggest you visit and access for yourself. :)

Let me have a couple of more cocktails and I'll get back to you.  :lol:
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