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RobertELee

Quote from: YoDoug on December 22, 2023, 08:45 AMI think this may be the rare time me and Smit agree on something. They are private businesses that located in public places that are a space premium. I applaud Chic fil A for being closed on Sunday and staying true to their beliefs, but I also see the issue with private corporations that serve the public in public locations being closed one day a week. A lot of people travel on Sundays and if the public space is open Sundays, I don't feel it is out of the question that the attached businesses should be as well. Those highway oasis stops are convenient for getting gas and having foods choices right there. Same thing with airport terminals.

Are you paying the lease on these places or is it the business that is occupying the space paying? Who cares if they are open 24/7 or 1 hour a month? It's not your money to worry about. Nobody is going to die because CFA is closed on a Sunday, there are typically 100 different choices at airports and such, there is zero need to force a private company to maintain a set of hours they don't have at any other location. Next thing they will force a business to stay open 24/7/365 because people work nights, it's just not conducive to some business models. There is zero reason for .gov to mandate a businesses hours of operation unless it is being funded by .gov.
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neurosis

Quote from: Incogneeto on December 22, 2023, 10:29 AMI'm sorry are we just talking about Convenience??




Donny, you're out of your element
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YoDoug

Things that are public space, like rest stops, airports, Cellular, radio, cable tV, Satellite, Power, utilities, etc. are limited space for private companies to operate. This is a situation where there can be some common sense regulation to keep that limited public space operating in the publics best interest. 
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RobertELee

Quote from: YoDoug on December 22, 2023, 10:51 AMThings that are public space, like rest stops, airports, Cellular, radio, cable tV, Satellite, Power, utilities, etc. are limited space for private companies to operate. This is a situation where there can be some common sense regulation to keep that limited public space operating in the publics best interest. 

And these companies pay a high premium to be in them. If they don't want to be open at a certain time they shouldn't be forced to do so, so long as they are paying out of their budget.

YoDoug

Quote from: RobertELee on December 22, 2023, 10:43 AMAre you paying the lease on these places or is it the business that is occupying the space paying? Who cares if they are open 24/7 or 1 hour a month? It's not your money to worry about. Nobody is going to die because CFA is closed on a Sunday, there are typically 100 different choices at airports and such, there is zero need to force a private company to maintain a set of hours they don't have at any other location. Next thing they will force a business to stay open 24/7/365 because people work nights, it's just not conducive to some business models. There is zero reason for .gov to mandate a businesses hours of operation unless it is being funded by .gov.

So if a private mall told Chic Fil A they will only rent space to them if they are open on Sundays would you still say it's nobodies business or would that just be free market capitalism happening between two businesses?
"In all my years here and on the old forum I have heard, and likely said, some pretty unhinged stuff. But congrats, you're the new leader in clubhouse."  - ghuns, 6/06/2025

YoDoug

Quote from: RobertELee on December 22, 2023, 10:58 AMAnd these companies pay a high premium to be in them. If they don't want to be open at a certain time they shouldn't be forced to do so, so long as they are paying out of their budget.

So as a renter you get to do whatever you want if you pay the rent?
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RobertELee

Quote from: YoDoug on December 22, 2023, 11:00 AMSo if a private mall told Chic Fil A they will only rent space to them if they are open on Sundays would you still say it's nobodies business or would that just be free market capitalism happening between two businesses?

If it's a requirement stipulated in the lease before the lease is signed then it's free market. But forcing something that is not listed in the requirements after the lease is signed would be fascism.
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RobertELee

Quote from: YoDoug on December 22, 2023, 11:02 AMSo as a renter you get to do whatever you want if you pay the rent?

So long as it isn't listed in the lease, yes.
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gcode

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Quote from: neurosis on December 22, 2023, 10:04 AMSo basically they're telling them if they want to use a space on their property they have to be open on Sunday?

But they've already signed a lease agreement that spells out Chick Fillet's hours (closed on Sunday)
When they lease is up they can change the terms if they like in which case CF will decline to renew the lease and move out.

This is just a bunch of gay rights advocates butt hurt because CF's owner believes marriage is between a man and a woman.
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RobertELee

Quote from: YoDoug on December 22, 2023, 11:02 AMSo as a renter

If you were a business owner what would you do if your landlord decided to change the rules after you moved in and setup? Would you suck it up and follow them, or call your lawyer and complain about their breech of contract?

neurosis

Quote from: YoDoug on December 22, 2023, 11:00 AMSo if a private mall told Chic Fil A they will only rent space to them if they are open on Sundays would you still say it's nobodies business or would that just be free market capitalism happening between two businesses?

Is it our tax dollars that pay for the property that these guys are renting out to the businesses?
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neurosis

Quote from: gcode on December 22, 2023, 11:15 AMThis is just a bunch of gay rights advocated butt hurt

was that an intentional pun?  tell me that was an intentional pun. :lol:
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RobertELee

Quote from: neurosis on December 22, 2023, 11:15 AMIs it our tax dollars that pay for the property that these guys are renting out to the businesses?

It's the company paying the lease that is repaying your tax dollars that were originally used to build the location.

Incogneeto

Quote from: neurosis on December 22, 2023, 10:50 AMDonny, you're out of your element


Am I??

Are you paying the lease on these places or is it the business that is occupying the space paying? Who cares if they are open 24/7 or 1 hour a month? It's not your money to worry about. Nobody is going to die because CFA is closed on a Sunday, there are typically 100 different choices at airports and such, there is zero need to force a private company to maintain a set of hours they don't have at any other location. Next thing they will force a business to stay open 24/7/365 because people work nights, it's just not conducive to some business models. There is zero reason for .gov to mandate a businesses hours of operation unless it is being funded by .gov.
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