Can you Imagine?

[Incogneeto]

Well If I go back through this thread.

Who was the first one that mentioned a Party???

[Incogneeto]

And yet they were still breaking the law and knew that they were breaking the law. I remember when following the law used to be a main principal of the Republican party. Now they just make excuses for it when it's convenient.

Ahem !!

[neurosis]

Ahem !!

Yes, I'm the first person on this forum to talk about party politics.  

[Incogneeto]

Yes, I'm the first person on this forum to talk about party politics.  

No YOU were the first person on this Thread.

Who threw the first stone?

[CNCAppsJames]

Maybe, but what I keep hearing here, is that based on cherry picked footage people were just being peacefully led through the building like some kind of sight seeing tour and that's just not true. Not even close to true yet that's what you were cheering on.

So to that I say - suck it.   

There's about 5 posible crimes in play for January 6th NONE of which involve the holy grail of "Insurrection".
1) Criminal Trespass
2) Misdemeanor Vandalism
3) Felony Vandalism
4) Aggravated Mayhem
5) Disruption of Government Proceedings

The 1st 4 of those 5; BLM and a dozen other leftist organizations are guilty of in a dozen US cities... AND not too long ago Pro-Palesitinians brok into the Capitpal. WHERE are THOSE aressts? Where are those prosecutions? I won't hold my breath.

[neurosis]

There's about 5 posible crimes in play

Don't forget 137 cases of Assaulting an officer and 78 cases of assault/impeading Officers using a dangerous weapon

The 1st 4 of those 5; BLM and a dozen other leftist organizations are guilty of in a dozen US cities... AND not too long ago Pro-Palesitinians brok into the Capitpal. WHERE are THOSE aressts? Where are those prosecutions? I won't hold my breath.

Weren't there were something like 120 federal cases brought against rioters during the George Floyd riots?  There probably should have been more?

The AP found that more than 120 defendants across the United States have pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including rioting, arson and conspiracy. More than 70 defendants who've been sentenced so far have gotten an average of about 27 months behind bars.

State charges are probably a little more difficult.  I know that several were convicted in Seattle.  A LOT more should have been.

If the argument here is fairness in prosecution between the Jan 6th and the GF protests, I'll give you that even though the goal of one was to prevent the certification of an election. If you're argument is that because it's not fair, the Jan 6th people should get a free pass, I'm not sure I can agree.

If you ever want to see how fast Republicans can go from pro men in blue to anti men in blue, watch some of the officers testimony that were defending the Capitol on Jan 6th.

[CNCAppsJames]

Don't forget 137 cases of Assaulting an officer and 78 cases of assault/impeading Officers using a dangerous weapon

Weren't there were something like 120 federal cases brought against rioters during the George Floyd riots?  There probably should have been more?


State charges are probably a little more difficult.  I know that several were convicted in Seattle.  A LOT more should have been.

If the argument here is fairness in prosecution between the Jan 6th and the GF protests, I'll give you that even though the goal of one was to prevent the certification of an election. If you're argument is that because it's not fair, the Jan 6th people should get a free pass, I'm not sure I can agree.

If you ever want to see how fast Republicans can go from pro men in blue to anti men in blue, watch some of the officers testimony that were defending the Capitol on Jan 6th.

Not saying ANYONE should get a free pass. What I'm saying are the heavy handed prosecutions are beyond absurd. The prosecution of the BLM/Lefist rioters did not include the same types of probative investigations; i.e. Bank statements, cell phone records, cell phone GPS records, etc... 

I IF the BLM/Leftists were prosecuted at all, they were slaps on the wrists. The reason people were pleading the J6 stuff is because the FBI used their usual tactics; "take this deal or your life is over, we will literally fuck you up AND your life PERMANENTLY." If many of those people would have been able to afford GOOD representation, they would have faced the charges they deserve, instead of the charged Alphabet Soup wanted them to face. AND not all of those that took deals were guilty of anything other than wrong place wrong time/sheep. And Ray Epps... 

Merrick Garland is a bitter piece of shit. He deserves to swing for his conduct in the J6 prosecutions. 

Insurrections don't have police escorts.Criminal activities don't have police escorts. Concerned people don't deny requests for additional security :cough: Nancy Pelosi I'm talking to you... go home you're drunk :cough: 

 

[neurosis]

I IF the BLM/Leftists were prosecuted at all, they were slaps on the wrists.

27 months in prison isn't exactly a slap on the wrist. Don't forget that good time in the fed amounts to almost nothing so you're spending almost all of that time.

Merrick Garland is a bitter piece of shit. He deserves to swing for his conduct in the J6 prosecutions.

I'd have to read through each and every case (I posted links that have all of the details of every case including the evidence found which in some cases was video and some sound pretty f'n bad. I have read through some of them) to know whether their prosecutions IN MY OPINION were out of line.  There are Federal sentencing guidelines that they have to adhere to *but* I'm sure that the goal was to make the charges and  penalties harsh enough that this never happens again.

The prosecution of the BLM/Lefist rioters did not include the same types of probative investigations; i.e. Bank statements, cell phone records, cell phone GPS records, etc...

I'll have to take your word on that. I haven't researched any of the BLM convictions/investigations. The Jan 6th are all conveniently posted on the DOJ website and are easily searchable.

[Del.]

All the shit wrong with this Country and you all talking about something 3 years old.

[neurosis]

All the shit wrong with this Country and you all talking about something 3 years old.

I mean, it was a pretty big deal. If it had been leftists trying to prevent Trumps certification Republicans would be calling for public hangings and there would be no charge or sentence harsh enough.

[RobertELee]

"Since that day more than 1200 people have been charged with assault on the capitol. Nearly 900 of them convicted or plead guilty. Collectively to date they have been sentenced to nearly 840 years in prison"
-Joe Biden Jan 5 2024

Sounds super duper bad to me. That's definitely 9/11 type sentences.

[Del.]

I mean, it was a pretty big deal. If it had been leftists trying to prevent Trumps certification Republicans would be calling for public hangings and there would be no charge or sentence harsh enough.

You mean like trying to keep him off state ballots and strategically timed court cases to prevent campaigning.

Yes I would be outraged.

[RobertELee]

You mean like trying to keep him off state ballots and strategically timed court cases to prevent campaigning.

Yes I would be outraged.

Correct, everything they are claiming Trump would do, they are doing, and justifying it as 'to protect our Demoooocracy!!!" Even though we're a Constitutional Republic....

[neurosis]

Sounds super duper bad to me. That's definitely 9/11 type sentences.

900/840 years in prison averages out to less than a year each 

Since a few got several years, like this guy I assume some got very little to no jail time? 

[neurosis]

You mean like trying to keep him off state ballots and strategically timed court cases to prevent campaigning.

Yes I would be outraged.

Some people actually believe that Trump is guilty of provoking Jan 6th. and isn't fit to be president.  Imagine that?