Trump verdict

Started by Del., February 17, 2024, 07:37 AM

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neurosis

I don't know, I'm just asking
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

CNCAppsJames

Investopedia has pretty much the applicable scenario;
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fraud.asp

Boil it down to this;
" Fraud is an intentionally deceptive action designed to provide the perpetrator with an unlawful gain or to deny a right to a victim."

So, I think it is entirely possible that false claims made on a loan application the netted a lower cost to Trump and therefore netted a loss to the lending institution. That's fraud in the strictest sense. Now, the case is "PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, BY LETITIAJAMES, ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE STATE OF NEWYORK,
Plaintiff,
- v -
DONALD J. TRUMP, DONALD TRUMP JR., ERIC TRUMP,ALLEN WEISSELBERG, JEFFREY MCCONNEY, THEDONALD J. TRUMP REVOCABLE TRUST, THE TRUMPORGANIZATION, INC., TRUMP ORGANIZATION LLC, DJTHOLDINGS LLC, DJT HOLDINGS  MANAGING MEMBER,TRUMP ENDEAVOR 12 LLC, 401 NORTH WABASH VENTURE LLC, TRUMP OLD POST OFFICE LLC, 40 WALL STREET LLC, SEVEN SPRINGS LLC,
Defendants."

There are NO lenders listed in this case. That's important and it gives Trump's Appeal a VERY good chance at being at the minimum heard and possibly overturned. I have not read or listened to all the testimony, I ain't got time for no Civil Case bullshit. There's other more pressing cases for me to read and listen to. That said, so far I've not read or heard of a single lender that said they would not lend to DJT again. Thats' important. Because if they were in fact truly harmed, they would have had standing in the case and would have won a judgement.

This case is nothing more than a vindictive bannana republic bitch with the nastiest case of TDS imaginable going against orange man bad because Mean Tweets.

That bitch knows as much law as AOC knows economics maybe even less.
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Elmer Fudd

I think that Hillary actually won. Trump cheated. ::)
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neurosis

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Quote from: Elmer Fudd on February 24, 2024, 03:59 AMI think that Hillary actually won. Trump cheated. ::)

I saw someone on facebook yesterday say how smart MTG is and that they wish she would run for president. Jewish space laser woman.  I think we've gone full idiocracy.  :D

Fraud is no longer fraud depending on who committed it, we're taking legal opinions from Tucker Carlson seriously, and MTG is "smart".  :D 
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I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

neurosis

I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

neurosis

Quote from: Newbeeee™ on February 24, 2024, 07:42 AMI keep yelling = they are selected, NOT elected.

So they selected Trump and then spent the last decade trying to get rid of him?
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neurosis

I do know this. I'm going to go apply for a business loan next week, tell them my condo is worth a million dollars and I want to use it for collateral. When they look at me like I'm crazy I'm going to say "there are no victims here".  :D 
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Del.

Quote from: neurosis on February 24, 2024, 07:56 AMI do know this. I'm going to go apply for a business loan next week, tell them my condo is worth a million dollars and I want to use it for collateral. When they look at me like I'm crazy I'm going to say "there are no victims here".  :D 

Hopefully they will sue you and convict for $100 million so you understand
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Quote from: Del. on February 24, 2024, 08:19 AMHopefully they will sue you and convict for $100 million so you understand

I wouldn't actually inflate the value of my property thinking that I could get away with it because I'm not a fucking retard.

There are usually different rules for the wealthy. If this hadn't been Trump, and had been say, Bidens son, all of so called pro law guys would be saying that he got what he deserved.
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Del.

Quote from: neurosis on February 24, 2024, 08:22 AMI wouldn't actually inflate the cost of my property thinking that I could get away with it because I'm not a fucking retard.


I'm not convinced you're not a retard so maybe you will go to Special court
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neurosis

Quote from: Del. on February 24, 2024, 08:25 AMI'm not convinced you're not a retard so maybe you will go to Special court

Touche.  I'm not convinced that people who still support Trump aren't retarded so here we are.  :lol:   
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RobertELee

Quote from: neurosis on February 24, 2024, 08:28 AMTouche.  I'm not convinced that people who still support Trump aren't retarded so here we are.  :lol:   

And I'm not convinced people with TDS aren't retarded, so I guess we're at an impass,

Incogneeto

Who is the one arguing with a Fish? ::)
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neurosis

Quote from: RobertELee on February 24, 2024, 08:34 AMAnd I'm not convinced people with TDS

I think that there are two versions of "TDS" and I'm not sure which is worse.

One where people will still claim that there was Russian collusion.

The other where people will just ignore when he actually does nefarious shit.

And I don't think that Trump supporters are retarded.  Not all of them anyway. :D It just surprises me how far they reach to ignore what a turd he is.

Didn't they just do a poll that showed Trump is losing educated republicans?  He does love the "poorly educated".
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neurosis

Quote from: Incogneeto on February 24, 2024, 08:39 AMWho is the one arguing with a Fish? ::)

That fact that I argue about this in here at all is suspect. :D
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