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Del.

Quote from: Elmer Fudd on September 13, 2024, 09:26 AMDel do you mean "no new wars"? We was still in Afghanistan.

Yes and he wanted out of there also. I doubt he would have left all that equipment behind.

JakeL

Quote from: Del. on September 13, 2024, 08:06 AMShe keeps saying " The Trump abortion ban"

That's an outright lie they didn't fact check. He could not be clearer in his position.

I started watching right as they started talking abortion (and only watched about 10 minutes). I didn't do any fact-checking but my takeaway was Trump very clearly said everyone wanted abortion to be handled at the state level and NOT the federal level, and that he made that happen.

Then Harris said "the Trump abortion ban" and as soon as she said that I thought "did I miss something"? I don't think Trump even stated his position on abortion, just that he moved it from federal to state.

 


Jeff

Quote from: JakeL on September 13, 2024, 10:01 AMand as soon as she said that I thought "did I miss something"?

No, you didn't miss anything.

The left caters to the feelings of the voter, that's all they care about.
Since they know that abortion is a huge issue, spewing "Trump abortion ban" over and over makes sure that the idiot libtards' feelings remain hurt and they associate Trump with an abortion ban because they've heard it over and over.
Even when it's not true, they continue to prey on their feelings because they know it's effective and the liberals don't care about facts.
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Smit

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Quote from: JakeL on September 13, 2024, 10:01 AMTrump very clearly said everyone wanted abortion to be handled at the state level and NOT the federal level, and that he made that happen.

That he did. He campaigned on getting Roe vs Wade repealed and history afforded him the opportunity to appoint 3 judges who would do just that.

But...did "everyone" really want it as he so clearly stated? Even if you rarely listen to news of any kind surely you were aware of major blow back from that decision. Saying "everyone" was, to put it mildly, inaccurate.

Quote from: Del. on September 13, 2024, 09:27 AMRemember when they asked her a question that covered 3 things and she said I'm going to cover all 3 of them and then rambled on about everything but those things.

She was quite evasive. But her main goal was to get Trump talking about rally size and eating dogs and cats.

Still, it was kinda like Trump's answer: "I have concepts of a plan" when he was asked about repealing the awful, terrible, lousy, not very good, affordable care act he saved back in the day.

I think most of us can agree solid details were hard to come by for both candidates.
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Jeff

Quote from: Smit on September 13, 2024, 10:24 AMStill, it was kinda like Trump's answer: "I have concepts of a plan"

Yanked right from CNN! Just like clockwork!
Weird how you didn't parrot that until CNN did eh?

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Del.

Quote from: Smit on September 13, 2024, 10:24 AMThat he did. He campaigned on getting Roe vs Wade repealed and history afforded him the opportunity to appoint 3 judges who would do just that.

But...did "everyone" really want it as he so clearly stated? Even if you rarely listen to news of any kind surely you were aware of major blow back from that decision. Saying "everyone" was, to put it mildly, inaccurate.

She was quite evasive. But her main goal was to get Trump talking about rally size and eating dogs and cats.

Still, it was kinda like Trump's answer: "I have concepts of a plan" when he was asked about repealing the awful, terrible, lousy, not very good, affordable care act he saved back in the day.

I think most of us can agree solid details were hard to come by for both candidates.

His opinion on the ACA was that if Congress couldn't improve on it, then he would leave it alone. I'm sure he has his own ideas but even I doubt they help much. Biggest thing to me is bringing the out of pocket costs way down.
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neurosis

Quote from: Del. on September 13, 2024, 10:03 AMSpeeding out of Ohio. 😂

This has definitely provided some of the best memes and videos I've seen in a while.  :lol: 
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neurosis

Quote from: Smit on September 13, 2024, 10:24 AMThat he did. He campaigned on getting Roe vs Wade repealed and history afforded him the opportunity to appoint 3 judges who would do just that.


Did he campaign on that in 2016?  I guess I don't remember.  I didn't think that was on his radar at the time. He was on record saying that he was pro-choice back in those days 
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Jeff

Quote from: neurosis on September 13, 2024, 11:39 AMDid he campaign on that in 2016?

No, just another egregious lie by Dumbsmit.

He was wanting to defund Planned Parenthood.

"I would defund it because of the abortion factor, which they say is 3 percent. I don't know what percentage it is. They say it's 3 percent. But I would defund it, because I'm pro-life."

Del.

Quote from: neurosis on September 13, 2024, 11:29 AMThis has definitely provided some of the best memes and videos I've seen in a while.  :lol: 


The best one I ever saw was the pic of the Bushes striper fishing in the flood waters in New Orleans after Katrina.
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Smit

Quote from: Del. on September 13, 2024, 12:01 PMThe best one I ever saw was the pic of the Bushes striper fishing in the flood waters in New Orleans after Katrina.

That was great. :)

Quote from: neurosis on September 13, 2024, 11:39 AMDid he campaign on that in 2016?  I guess I don't remember.  I didn't think that was on his radar at the time. He was on record saying that he was pro-choice back in those days 

It didn't happen on accident. Let's hop on the way back machine and review the 2016 debate with Hillary Clinton....

I don't think people took him seriously back then....and the rest if history.

Trump Says Roe v. Wade Will Be Overturned 'Automatically' If He's Elected

And yes, he did campaign on repealing the ACA.

Fact-checking Trump's 'repeal and replace' Obamacare timeline


https://x.com/i/status/1833697264671310182
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neurosis

Quote from: Smit on September 13, 2024, 12:58 PMAnd yes, he did campaign on repealing the ACA.

That I do remember.  What ever  happened to the 'replace' part of that?


Probably the same thing that happened to getting rid of the deficit?  Or Mexico paying for the wall?  :lol:
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Newbeeee™

Quote from: neurosis on September 13, 2024, 09:13 AMit was quite an accomplishment.
Yep.
The rise in world wide cancer rates is astronomical.
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neurosis

Quote from: Newbeeee™ on September 13, 2024, 03:57 PMYep.
The rise in world wide cancer rates is astronomical.

And of course you have proof that it's attributed to the vax and nothing else? 
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