Paul Pelosi's DUI

Started by Jeff, October 10, 2024, 04:39 AM

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ghuns

Quote from: Smit on October 10, 2024, 07:22 AM...Reputable news sources provide the best facts available at the time with a minimum of bias. If that makes it seem like they're "actively trying to help Harris get elected" then it is what it is.

In your estimation, is CBS and 60 Minutes a reputable news source?
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Quote from: Jim at Gentex on October 10, 2024, 06:38 AMI'm not raging, just pointing out the obvious double standard AGAIN, to those who are either blind or willfully ignorant of it.  :yes:
You're trying to reason with someone who thinks The US Constitution is a "fringe document". There is no reasoning with that.

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Jim at Gentex

Quote from: neurosis on October 10, 2024, 07:32 AMApparently it's only ok if you ask questions that lead to a specific outcome? :D

As far as how the case works out, hasn't he already been convicted, spent time in jail, paid a fine, got put on probation, etc?  That Jesse Waters video was from two years ago.


Yes, that's true.
I forgot the case was already settled.
He got sentenced to 5 days in jail and 3 years probation.

He only actually served 2 days in jail, and received a fine of $4927.00, according to NPR.
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/24/1119185396/paul-pelosi-nancy-pelosi-dui

After the Watters piece though, Judge Joseph Solga was the one who heard the case, not Judge Langhorne.
All in all though, Pelosi still got a slap on the wrist, comparatively speaking.
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Smit

Quote from: ghuns on October 10, 2024, 07:53 AMIn your estimation, is CBS and 60 Minutes a reputable news source?

I don't watch them but I did see the Presidential debate.

mediabias fact check rates them as left leaning with high credibility.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cbs-news/

QuoteAnalysis / Bias

CBS News is considered a mainstream USA media source that reports news with a left-leaning bias in story selection. In other words, they are more likely to report on a story that is favorable to the left or more critical of the right. However, they always source their information correctly and cover both sides of stories. The wording of headlines utilizes minimal loaded words such as this: Trump denies advance knowledge of son's meeting with Russian lawyer.
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They must have changed since Dan Rather left.
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Quote from: Jim at Gentex on October 10, 2024, 07:55 AMAfter the Watters piece though, Judge Joseph Solga was the one who heard the case, not Judge Langhorne.
All in all though, Pelosi still got a slap on the wrist, comparatively speaking.

Yea, I'm not sure?  I'd like to see the police report and have more information on the guy who was injured. Otherwise, his sentence looks pretty standard? 

"Napa County DUI Sentencing Standard
Based on the provided search results, the standard sentencing for a DUI in Napa County is typically:

2 days in jail for a first-time offender
Informal probation period of 3 to 5 years
Fines and assessments
Drinking driver school
Court probation
Possibly requiring an Ignition Interlock Device (IID) in the vehicle
It's essential to note that sentencing can vary depending on the specific circumstances of the case, such as:

Prior criminal and driving history
Blood alcohol concentration (BAC) level
Presence of aggravating factors (e.g., multiple offenses, high BAC, collision)
Negotiations with the prosecutor"

For reference, Pelosi's sentence.

QuoteJudge Solga sentenced Mr. Pelosi to the following consequences: (1) placed on summary probation for 3 years; (2) pay a $1723 court fine; (3) serve 5 days in jail; (4) submit to a blood, breath, or urine test if requested by any law enforcement officer or probation officer if suspected of driving with a measurable amount of alcohol; (5) pay $4927.53 in victim restitution for medical bills and lost wages as well as a standard $150 restitution fine; (6) do not operate a motor vehicle with a measurable amount of alcohol; (7) immediately enroll in, pay for, and successfully complete a licensed DUI program for 3 months; (8) do not operate a motor vehicle unless it is equipped with a functioning, certified ignition device for 1 year. Based upon this conviction, the Department of Motor Vehicles can suspend Mr. Pelosi's driver's license for one year. The Court will retain jurisdiction for any future restitution bills.
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Quote from: neurosis on October 10, 2024, 08:22 AMYea, I'm not sure?  I'd like to see the police report and have more information on the guy who was injured. Otherwise, his sentence looks pretty standard? 

"Napa County DUI Sentencing Standard
Based on the provided search results, the standard sentencing for a DUI in Napa County is typically:

2 days in jail for a first-time offender
Informal probation period of 3 to 5 years
Fines and assessments
Drinking driver school
Court probation
Possibly requiring an Ignition Interlock Device (IID) in the vehicle
It's essential to note that sentencing can vary depending on the specific circumstances of the case, such as:

Prior criminal and driving history
Blood alcohol concentration (BAC) level
Presence of aggravating factors (e.g., multiple offenses, high BAC, collision)
Negotiations with the prosecutor"

For reference, Pelosi's sentence.


If that is indeed the case, I stand corrected.  :yes:
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Quote from: Smit on October 10, 2024, 05:17 AMKill the messenger?

I was just pointing out that Fox "news" is a part of the MSM and they ARE covering it. Just to appeal to the partisan "Jeffs" out there.

Nobody was hurt in the posts in this thread. :)

And for the record, if you don't think people with friends in high places, regardless of political affiliation, get preferential treatment in this country I've got a nice bridge you might be interested in. :whistle:
WuT?
Hang on brown eyes. Go do your best and try and find a mirror to look into.
You're the one ALWAYS spouting the same shit saying "blah blah blah put them in front of a judge and they'll be found guilty if there's a case for a trial otherwise STFU blah blah blah".

Yet here you are, making excuses for the two-tier club?
Oh, and why the fook defend it - you're not in THE club.

Well, not THAT one anyway.... :rolleyes:


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ghuns

Quote from: Smit on October 10, 2024, 08:10 AMI don't watch them but I did see the Presidential debate.

mediabias fact check rates them as left leaning with high credibility.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cbs-news/


They edited Harris's famous word salad answers to a question to make her sound better.

Would they do that for Trump?

Would you consider an organization that does that to have high credibilty?
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Quote from: ghuns on October 10, 2024, 09:41 AMThey edited Harris's famous word salad answers to a question to make her sound better.

Would they do that for Trump?

Would you consider an organization that does that to have high credibilty?
He's incapable of independent thought, he has to go to a "fact check" website and have them tell him if they are credible or not.

Notice how fact checking wasn't a thing until the truth started coming out?
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BrianP.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/unprecedented-positive-media-for-harris-89-negative-for-trump/ar-AA1p44yn

QuoteThe media have gone on a Kamala Harris binge since the vice president moved swiftly to replace President Joe Biden as the Democratic Party's 2024 candidate of choice, giving her the most positive coverage in modern history.

At the same time, and nearly as expected, the same media have gone on a scorched-earth campaign against former President Donald Trump, giving the Republican nominee what is likely to be a historic level of negative coverage.

That assessment comes from the latest review of network news from the conservative watchdog, the Media Research Center, which found that 84% of the coverage of Harris has been positive, while 89% of Trump's has been negative on CBS, NBC, and ABC.

It's not like the media would run with a fake Russian collusion story or help deny the ownership of a laptop or something. 🙄
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Smit

Quote from: Newbeeee™ on October 10, 2024, 09:13 AMWuT?

You are a dumb mfer. :yes:

Quote from: ghuns on October 10, 2024, 09:41 AMThey edited Harris's famous word salad answers to a question to make her sound better.

Would they do that for Trump?

Would you consider an organization that does that to have high credibilty?

Beej pointed that out earlier. I expect they wouldn't do that for Trump.

Knowing that I would personally not consider them to have high credibility, especially in the editorial department. So even though I don't watch their stuff (other than the Presidential debate) I'm even less inclined to now.

The only part of 60 minutes I see is when it comes on with the ticking clock right after the afternoon football game.

I'm not defending CBS. If they edited the tape that's not right.
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Quote from: Jeff on October 10, 2024, 09:48 AMHe's incapable of independent thought, he has to go to a "fact check" website and have them tell him if they are credible or not.

Notice how fact checking wasn't a thing until the truth started coming out?

Fact checking wasn't a necessary part of the public vernacular until DJT, and his never ending string of lies and half-truths, gained popularity. Even then, fact checking could have been avoided if it weren't for the millions of gullible, foggy-minded minions who somehow lost the ability to distinguish fact from fantasy.

Donald Trump lies (ewww, Wiki)
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