Democrat policies

[YoDoug]

And my family income hasn't caught up one bit to any of it. My mortgage was $2400/month in 2020, as of last week it is $3300/month. That is NOT my mortgage going up, it is insurance, taxes, and other bullshit in escrow. I'm sure it will go up another $100/month next year because we had a huge school referendum go through yesterday.

Not many families income has gone up $1000/month in the last 4 years except for those living off minimum wage...

In MN auto and home insurance has gone up 30%-50% over the last two years. It is crazy.

[beej]

But it's not a policy. Nobody has a high inflation policy.

see #2 above

green energy might be necessary, but it is an inflationary policy. High energy cost affect everything and it is hardest on low income americans. I'm not saying that we don't need green energy. But that is an inflationary policy.

In fact most federal regulations are inflationary policies. Maybe they are necessary, I'm not saying they're not necessary but the more regulations you put on agriculture, manufacturing or transportation, or housing. those all make those industries cost more. Just as an example, since you work in manufacturing, if you do government work, paperwork has to be filled out in triplicate a lot of times. But if you do work for a company down the street that just wants a part that works for them, you can make that part a lot cheaper. So federal regulations are inflationary policies. Maybe they are necessary maybe not, but if you vote for someone who wants more regulations, you are voting for inflationary policies.

[RobertELee]

But it's not a policy. Nobody has a high inflation policy.

Spending like a drunken sailor certainly is part of a policy

[beej]

In MN auto and home insurance has gone up 30%-50% over the last two years. It is crazy.

same here in Missouri. I couldn't afford to buy the home and land that I currently own. I was lucky to have bought it when I did.

[YoDoug]

same here in Missouri. I couldn't afford to buy the home and land that I currently own. I was lucky to have bought it when I did.

Yeah, luckily during Trumps admin we were able to pay down our debts and start a decent savings. Over the last year we have had to dip into that savings more times than I like.

[YoDoug]

It's pretty clear Trump has the primitive, crude, rude, white supremacist, misogynistic, xenophobic, homophobic, etc people wrapped up. Those people are his base. The Trump cult. They worship their orange god. You know who I'm talking about.

That's a pretty large portion of people in this country. Larger than I used to think it was. But not enough to win.

I do understand Harris was hardly a perfect candidate. But Trump and Vance were spewing lies, hate, threats, etc. In other words, hardly perfect candidates themselves.

So that means a lot of reasonable, rational Americans voted for Trump. I'm wondering what policies were the Democrats pushing that made moderate, reasonable, rational Americans think they would be better off voting for Trump than Harris?

Perhaps maybe it's time for some self introspection?

[mowens]

This is my own perspective.


I don't like Trump even a little bit. But he has been president before and we came through okay.

I don't  like Kamala Harris even a little bit. She has been vice president before. IMO, she seemed just as lost most of the time as Biden towards the end. They kept her out of sight as much as they could. As president, I have no idea what she will do or whose advice she will listen to. She doesn't think on her feet well at all.

The George Floyd riots were handled miserably. With all of the January 6th crap, the fact that the extreme left was allowed to take over large sections of a major city, even forcing a police station to be abandoned, with no repercussions is never mentioned. That, to me, was when the media quit being journalists, no longer just reporting and letting people make up their own minds, but actually telling people how they should think. I hold the Democrats responsible for almost all of that.

Those are the reasons I voted for a guy I really don't like.

[Smit]

I probably don't meet those qualifications to answer, but here I am anyway.

1) quit telling me I'm racist because I vote republican. there are plenty of racists who vote democrat. racism knows no party. But I know that I don't hate people based on skin color, and when someone accuses me of it, I'm done with them.

2) if you want to talk democrat policies, giving first time home buyers 25,000 to make housing affordable is just about as bad of an idea as I can think of. The price of solar panels quickly went up by the exact price of the green energy tax credit once that was started. I know that because a close friend had some installed prior to the tax credit. And when they started that tax credit, I told my wife, that credit makes them affordable, and when I got a quote for the same size system it was 40% higher than my friend had just paid 2 years earlier.

3) the idea of going soft on crime to keep people out of prison in order to stop a cycle of men not raising their children, is a terrible idea. For one, it incentivizes crime as seen in the snatch and grab schemes in Cali. It also exposes children to being raised by fathers who participate in crime and violence. and ignores the victims of those crimes which is most often the weaker members of the same race.

4) Trying to keep new stories suppressed that don't match the narrative you want to spin, is not a good look, especially in an age when people can just share those stories through social media. Then what do they have to do to stop the spread of those stories? control the social media in the name of false information. The censors always come out looking like the bad guys. The most obvious example of that was the Biden laptop story. If that were the only time, you might look past it, but then you have the stories where the media actively tried to mislead us. Like in the case where the Native American gentleman taunted a teenager with a MAGA hat, they had video of the truth and just suppressed it to sell a story of MAGA racism.

when I say YOU in these examples, I don't mean you personally, I mean Democrats as a group.

You're one of the people I hoped to hear from. Thanks for the reasoned reply. This is what I would say about those items.

1. Not a policy, more of a media thing, but I see it mentioned a lot. I think people see it in print and apply it to themselves. I doubt anybody has ever said it to you personally.

2. The $25000 was a policy. Was it a good idea? I don't know. As for the solar panels, you might be right. Was that after inflation hit?

3. I hadn't heard a policy of going soft on crime to keep families together. There has been a movement (policy if you prefer) nationwide to release nonviolent offenders from prison. Especially for marijuana users and such who pose no risk to society. Why pay to keep those people in prison? Repeat offenders need to be handled differently. I don't know of any policy that would suggest otherwise.

4.1 I;m not sure this is a Democrat policy. But there is a LOT of disinformation out there that is detrimental to our country. Social media is a big culprit in that. How do you handle that? Maybe you don't agree and think it's not a problem.

4.2 The laptop thing. If you recall it was an October surprise. The guy who initially wrote the story wouldn't put his name on it because he wasn't sure it was correct. They found another willing to put his name on it and published it. In addition, it was probably a mistake to give the laptop to Giuliani because he in one of the most unbelievable guys out there. But it turned out to be true. One further note, nothing ever came from anything on the laptop. The story was it was real, not that it was any kind of evidence.

4.3 Not policy. It was an embarrassment to the media for rushing judgment on a story that turned out to be a misunderstood event. There are plenty of embarrassing one offs from both right, left, and even the media who try to be unbiased.

[RobertELee]

I don't  like Kamala Harris even a little bit.

Welcome to the homophobic nazi club!

[Del.]

same here in Missouri. I couldn't afford to buy the home and land that I currently own. I was lucky to have bought it when I did.

I changed coverage when it went way up. Actually got a better policy for much less. Not sure how long that will last. You guys check to make sure you don't have earthquake insurance added on.

[Smit]

I also think the Left, including Kamala and Biden, pushed a lot of extreme left issues which don't poll well with moderates. Most polling shows moderates have a very live and let live attitude towards social issues, but when you constantly get in their face with Trans issues and biological men in women's sports, it pushes people against you.

The culture wars. Yes. That was mostly being pushed by Republicans. It worked for them.

[Incogneeto]

The culture wars. Yes. That was mostly being pushed by Republicans. It worked for them.

C'mon Smit?

How are we gonna work together?

You want a Better America and so do I.

I can Give can you?

[RobertELee]

The culture wars. Yes. That was mostly being pushed by Republicans. It worked for them.

How so? Like turning everything woke? Like every joke you don't think is funny requires a mob to cancel the comedian? Like disagreeing with someone immediately labels them a nazi, homophobe, or racist? Like the everyone deserves a trophy craze? Like making it illegal for schools to tell parents their child may be dealing with some shit? Is it like that Smit?

[CNCAppsJames]

Or like people that quote the US Constitution VERBATIM with supporting definitions get labeled wingnuts or whatever smitforbrains favorite pejorative of the day is.

That can't be worked with and and can't be reasoned with because his rational thought process has been completely and totally vacated. 

[Del.]

Or like people that quote the US Constitution VERBATIM with supporting definitions get labeled wingnuts or whatever smitforbrains favorite pejorative of the day is.

That can't be worked with and and can't be reasoned with because his rational thought process has been completely and totally vacated.

My daughter voted for Kamala. She's disappointed in results. She thinks that Trump will ban Gay marriage and let the States decide if they will allow mixed race marriages. I love her to death but how the hell do I have a conversation with someone who reads something like this and believes it.