Just Republican conspiracy theories

[beej]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/01/10/zuckerberg_people_in_the_biden_administraiton_told_us_to_censor_true_information_about_vaccine_side-effects.html

MARK ZUCKERBERG: So, in the beginning, it kind of seemed like, OK, we should give a little bit of deference to the government and the health authorities on how we should play this.

But when it went from, you know, 2 weeks to flatten the curve to, you know, in like in the beginning, it was like, "OK, there aren't enough masks, masks aren't that important," to then it's like, "Oh no, now you have to wear a mask." And, you know, like everything was shifting around.

It beaome very difficult to kind of follow, and this really hit the most extreme, I'd say during the Biden administration when they were trying to roll out the vaccine program. Yeah, I'm generally like pretty pro-rolling out vaccines. I think on balance the vaccines are more positive than negative.

But I think that while they're trying to push that program, they also tried to censor anyone who is basically arguing against it, and they pushed us super hard to take down things that were honestly were true, right? I mean, they, they basically pushed us and said, you know, "Anything that says that vaccines might have side effects, you basically need to take down."

And I was just like, well, we're not gonna do that. Like we're we're clearly not gonna do that. I mean that that that that is kind of inarguably true.

JOE ROGAN: Who's telling you to take down things to talk about vaccine side effects?

MARK ZUCKERBERG: It was people in the Biden administration.

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The interactions that I was just referring to -- I mean, a lot of this is documented because Jim Jordan and the House had this whole investigation and committee into the kind of government censorship around stuff like this, and we produced all these documents and it's all in the public domain.

I mean, basically, these people from the Biden administration would call up our team and like scream at them and curse and it's like these documents are it's all kind of out there.

JOE ROGAN: Did you record any of those phone calls?

MARK ZUCKERBERG: No, I don't think we record -- but there are emails, the emails are published. It's all kind of out there, and basically it just got to this point where we were like, "No, we're not gonna take down things that are true. That's ridiculous."

They wanted us to take down this meme of Leonardo DiCaprio looking at a TV, talking about how 10 years from now or something, you're going to see an ad that says, "OK, if you took a COVID vaccine, you're eligible for this kind of payment," like sort of a class action lawsuit type meme.

And they're like, "No, you have to take that down."

We said no, we're not gonna take down humor and satire, we're not gonna take down things that are true.

And then at some point, I guess, it flipped a bit. Biden gave some statement at some point, I don't know if it was a press conference or to some journalists, where he basically was like, "These guys are killing people."

And, all these different agencies and branches of government basically just like started investigating and coming after our company. It was brutal.

[Del.]

I think most rational people are beginning to realize the biggest threat to this country is progressive liberalism. We're sick of it and aren't going to take it anymore.

[Incogneeto]

I think most rational people are beginning to realize the biggest threat to this country is progressive liberalism. We're sick of it and aren't going to take it anymore.

We realized it a Loooong time ago.

"It was mostly just a Peaceful Protest"


That's Over.

[neurosis]

I think most rational people are beginning to realize the biggest threat to this country is progressive liberalism. We're sick of it and aren't going to take it anymore.

The biggest threat is people willing to buy in to misinformation.

I'd probably give the close second to ridiculously far left liberalism, but how much of the country do you believe that is?

[Del.]

Dignity my ass.

[Del.]

The biggest threat is people willing to buy in to misinformation.

I'd probably give the close second to ridiculously far left liberalism, but how much of the country do you believe that is?

Most of the buy in of misinformation turns out to be true.

I 40% of this country are far left idiots

[neurosis]

Most of the buy in of misinformation turns out to be true.

I 40% of this country are far left idiots

I think you're pulling numbers out of thin air and most of it isn't true. You could probably give me 10 examples of something that was considered a conspiracy that either turned out to be true, or partially true. We see ton's of misinformation every day. I'd like to see a true percentage of how much of that actually turns out to be true. 

[Del.]

I think you're pulling numbers out of thin air and most of it isn't true. You could probably give me 10 examples of something that was considered a conspiracy that either turned out to be true, or partially true. We see ton's of misinformation every day. I'd like to see a true percentage of how much of that actually turns out to be true. 

Shit Nuro, You asked me what I think and I told you and then you question my answer. Why the fuck did you even ask.

[YoDoug]

Shit Nuro, You asked me what I think and I told you and then you question my answer. Why the fuck did you even ask.

Get him Del! Don't that sh!t from a fence sitter!

[neurosis]

Shit Nuro, You asked me what I think and I told you and then you question my answer. Why the fuck did you even ask.

I was curious about your perception of how many people are on the fringe of the left.

I don't agree with you. Am I not allowed to disagree? 

I think that most people want the same things and that the idiots of both sides are the loudest and are used to benchmark the lunacy of politics. I'm pretty naive though so.. 

[YoDoug]

I am on the fence about Zuck new found free speech ideology. I don't know whether he is just sucking up to Trump to keep the DOJ from investigating FB's election interference, or if he is actually turning more conservative. He put Dana White on the board last week. White is a conservative and friend of Trump. Zuck likes and respects White. I guess time will tell.

[YoDoug]

I was curious about your perception of how many people are on the fringe of the left.

I don't agree with you. Am I not allowed to disagree? 

I think that most people want the same things and that the idiots of both sides are the loudest and are used to benchmark the lunacy of politics. I'm pretty naive though so..

IMO, the far left fringe is just that, a small fringe. The problem is the misinformation spewed from the mainstream media gives them a lot of cover.

[Del.]

I am on the fence about Zuck new found free speech ideology. I don't know whether he is just sucking up to Trump to keep the DOJ from investigating FB's election interference, or if he is actually turning more conservative. He put Dana White on the board last week. White is a conservative and friend of Trump. Zuck likes and respects White. I guess time will tell.

I heard Zuk say " I just believe that Trump wants America to win"

[Del.]

I was curious about your perception of how many people are on the fringe of the left.

I don't agree with you. Am I not allowed to disagree? 

I think that most people want the same things and that the idiots of both sides are the loudest and are used to benchmark the lunacy of politics. I'm pretty naive though so..

I'll give you that the entire 40% are not far left. Probably 15-20% in my opinion pushing that agenda. Maybe the same for Republicans. It's the remaining 20% that has the ability to stop either side.

[neurosis]

IMO, the far left fringe is just that, a small fringe. The problem is the misinformation spewed from the mainstream media gives them a lot of cover.

I think that they get more perceived credibility because of that, but I don't think that all of their ideas are accepted by the majority of the Country.  I feel the same about the far right fringe.

Not to suck del in, but his ideology isn't that of someone on the far right.. not even right of center.

I heard Zuk say " I just believe that Trump wants America to win"

Why do you think that is all of the sudden? lol.