The real reason for the tariffs

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beej

Quote from: Del. on April 16, 2025, 07:54 AMhttps://www.facebook.com/share/v/16DJpLp4ef/?mibextid=wwXIfr

dude! stop trying to confuse us with facts!

maybe they were only saying that because, back then, Trump was contributing to their campaign.
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Del.

Quote from: beej on April 16, 2025, 07:56 AMdude! stop trying to confuse us with facts!

These Liberals are so fucking stupid. They just can't lay off criticism of Trump because of that R beside his name. It's pathetic.
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neurosis

Quote from: Del. on April 16, 2025, 07:40 AMBill Clinton, Hillary, Pelosi, Schumer, Obama all wanted to do what Trump is doing now but not one criticism of them at the time from you liberals. Your hypocrisy has no bounds.

Are you sure they wanted to do exactly what Trump is doing now?
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I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

neurosis

Quote from: Del. on April 16, 2025, 07:59 AMThese Liberals are so fucking stupid. They just can't lay off criticism of Trump because of that R beside his name. It's pathetic.

I've never voted for a single liberal. Have you?
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Jeff

Quote from: neurosis on April 16, 2025, 06:22 AMI agree with you. MSNBC, at least back when I had cable television and was able to watch it, was just as bad as Fox in the other direction. 

My bigger point is that you can't even use right leaning sources to make a point if they are at all criticizing Trump. Criticize Trump = immediately dismissed.

Because that's all they want to do. They have never complimented him or shown him in a positive light since he announced he was running for POTUS as a Republican. Once that was announced, he was public enemy #1 for the left.
So it's dismissed because it has become nothing but white noise.
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beej

Quote from: Del. on April 16, 2025, 07:59 AMThese Liberals are so fucking stupid. They just can't lay off criticism of Trump because of that R beside his name. It's pathetic.

it's bizarre to me. If there was a political ideal that I had advocated for, for a long time, ie ending abortion, and the Democrat party came out in favor of my position, I'd be elated, rather than change my view.

Democrats have been wanting these tariffs for as long as I can recall. now they hate tariffs. Democrats have been begging to raise taxes on corporations for longer than I've been alive. Now they charge tariffs and democrats say they are really taxing the people, while still wanting to raise income taxes on Corporations! Mind-boggling!
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Bucky Cornstarch

Quote from: YoDoug on April 16, 2025, 06:45 AMLOL, either you are intentionally being obtuse about how "facts" are derived, or you are stupid. You tell me what outcome you want and I can cherry pick, massage, and manipulate the evidence used to justify the "facts" that support your desired outcome.

No. Here are some facts:

1. Trump levied tariffs against certain products and countries.

2. The company you work for (or own, that isn't clear) experienced a price increase after the tariffs were put in place.

3. You whined about it on an internet forum.

We can debate whether the price increases were the result of Trump's tariffs, whether your whining was because of the price increase or because of Trumps tariffs, or whether you were born stupid or if it was your upbringing.

We can not, however, debate the three points I listed above, as they are facts and can be supported by evidence.

Del.

Quote from: beej on April 16, 2025, 08:12 AMit's bizarre to me. If there was a political ideal that I had advocated for, for a long time, ie ending abortion, and the Democrat party came out in favor of my position, I'd be elated, rather than change my view.

Democrats have been wanting these tariffs for as long as I can recall. now they hate tariffs. Democrats have been begging to raise taxes on corporations for longer than I've been alive. Now they charge tariffs and democrats say they are really taxing the people, while still wanting to raise income taxes on Corporations! Mind-boggling!

It's like the Twilight Zone.

Del.

Quote from: Bucky Cornstarch on April 16, 2025, 08:16 AMNo. Here are some facts:

1. Trump levied tariffs against certain products and countries.

2. The company you work for (or own, that isn't clear) experienced a price increase after the tariffs were put in place.

3. You whined about it on an internet forum.

We can debate whether the price increases were the result of Trump's tariffs, whether your whining was because of the price increase or because of Trumps tariffs, or whether you were born stupid or if it was your upbringing.

We can not, however, debate the three points I listed above, as they are facts and can be supported by evidence.

I've not seen you respond to the evidence all these liberal heroes of yours wanted to do the same thing Trump is doing. Now you don't like it because of Trump. That's the only reason. There's evidence out the ass.
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Del.

There's evidence the majority of voters wanted Trump to do what he's doing. 

There's evidence that he ran on that platform. 

There's evidence that he has been transparent about it for over 30 years.
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Jeff

Quote from: beej on April 16, 2025, 08:12 AMit's bizarre to me. If there was a political ideal that I had advocated for, for a long time, ie ending abortion, and the Democrat party came out in favor of my position, I'd be elated, rather than change my view.

Democrats have been wanting these tariffs for as long as I can recall. now they hate tariffs. Democrats have been begging to raise taxes on corporations for longer than I've been alive. Now they charge tariffs and democrats say they are really taxing the people, while still wanting to raise income taxes on Corporations! Mind-boggling!

It's purely because a Republican is doing it.
Oppose, Oppose, Oppose. No matter what. Party before country.
They've shown us that for at least 9 straight years.

You can show speeches of Pelosi,Obama, Hillary, Bernie, all saying the EXACT same thing that Trump is doing right now. Those speeches got massive applause from the left, now.... they hate it.
Weird.

Jeff

If the lefty media had not called Trump a nazi for 9 straight years and actually did journalism instead of opinion pieces, there is no way in hell these libtards would be acting like they are today.

It's all by design. Constantly put out hateful shit against Trump so that the left will never, ever vote R or have independent thought.
When that's all teens know the last 9 years of their life, it's almost like brainwashing.
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Bucky Cornstarch

Quote from: Del. on April 16, 2025, 08:21 AMI've not seen you respond to the evidence all these liberal heroes of yours wanted to do the same thing Trump is doing. Now you don't like it because of Trump. That's the only reason. There's evidence out the ass.

Show me where I've said I am in favor of tariffs. Hell, show me where I claim that a liberal, or anyone, is my hero.

And yes, if someone says something and it can be proven with tape, or video, or any other form of evidence, that is indeed a fact. Congratulations.

Jeff

Holy shit! Whoopie actually agrees with Trump!
Probably doesn't even know she's doing it, and will never give him credit, but regardless she said that removing the Dept. of Education is a good thing.