I need a new computer. Reccomendations?

Here's Johnny! · February 05, 2021, 05:44 PM

Quadro RTX 3000 would be a minimum.

Quadro RTX 4000 very good

Quadro RTX 5000 Very High End

mike93 · February 05, 2021, 06:11 PM

Do the RTX cards rely speed up things for mastercam? Moving from 2019 to 2021 The most thing I am waiting on is the Chain Manager to pop up and also the trim, I can Clke both enitys and still wait, then poff its done. I love Mastercam and have been using it for 25 years but some times WTF

neurosis · February 05, 2021, 06:24 PM

Quote from: mike93 post_id=6059 time=1612577476 user_id=61Do the RTX cards rely speed up things for mastercam? Moving from 2019 to 2021 The most thing I am waiting on is the Chain Manager to pop up and also the trim, I can Clke both enitys and still wait, then poff its done. I love Mastercam and have been using it for 25 years but some times WTF

Probably not. I don't know how raytracing would help anything in MC. I was just joking around.

Here's Johnny! · February 05, 2021, 06:45 PM

Quote from: mike93 post_id=6059 time=1612577476 user_id=61Do the RTX cards rely speed up things for mastercam? Moving from 2019 to 2021 The most thing I am waiting on is the Chain Manager to pop up and also the trim, I can Clke both enitys and still wait, then poff its done. I love Mastercam and have been using it for 25 years but some times WTF

Supposed to help. Ron (Crazy_Millman) is running the RTX 5000 card on his system.

byte · February 06, 2021, 02:03 AM

Quote from: mike93 post_id=6048 time=1612574780 user_id=61I want to go back to a fx we used to have them and no trouble then I said we needed the Quotro cards? Any Ways What is the best build for 2021 (mastercam lots of surfacing 5Xing simulating and 300 opparition parts with 200 surfacing ops.

If you have too many operations in the operation manager in Mastercam 2021, it can badly affect the system performance.
We raised the issue to Cnc Software for the NESTING toolpath, they were able to significantly enhance the performance in 2022 BETA.

Here's Johnny! · February 06, 2021, 06:37 AM

Pete we need to ditch Windows and have MC operate on Linux. 😬

neurosis · February 06, 2021, 06:57 AM

lol. If were going to vote to go that route - FreeBSD! Linux is a hodge podge mess of crap. I say that and use Arch on 2 of my PC's.

gcode · February 06, 2021, 10:02 AM

Quote from: mike93 post_id=6048 time=1612574780 user_id=61I want to go back to a fx we used to have them and no trouble then I said we needed the Quotro cards? Any Ways What is the best build for 2021 (mastercam lots of surfacing 5Xing simulating and 300 opparition parts with 200 surfacing ops.

The FX line is is over 15 years old
The Quadro line is 6 years old
The RTX was new in 2018

I have a Quadro 4000 in my home machine and a Quadro RTX 4000 in my work machine
The difference is night and day

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadro">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadro

byte · February 09, 2021, 05:41 PM

Quote from: gcode post_id=6117 time=1612634532 user_id=60
Quote from: mike93 post_id=6048 time=1612574780 user_id=61I want to go back to a fx we used to have them and no trouble then I said we needed the Quotro cards? Any Ways What is the best build for 2021 (mastercam lots of surfacing 5Xing simulating and 300 opparition parts with 200 surfacing ops.

The FX line is is over 15 years old
The Quadro line is 6 years old
The RTX was new in 2018

I have a Quadro 4000 in my home machine and a Quadro RTX 4000 in my work machine
The difference is night and day

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadro">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadro

So the gpu part I get, we are doing a lot of the work on the gpu for cam, so we need the rtx 4k.
What about processor/ram ?
The recommended is 32 gb ram.

CNCAppsJames · February 09, 2021, 08:26 PM

Quote from: gcode post_id=5568 time=1612321477 user_id=60The Dell Business Outlet store is always good if you are on a budget
If you need to blow some of your ill gotten Game Stop bucks
these are always nice

https://www.xicomputer.com/solutions/MasterCAM/">https://www.xicomputer.com/solutions/MasterCAM/

Mine will be around $4,900 with the 3 year the support contract.
https://www.xicomputer.com/products/configure_classic.asp?model=PowerGoIntel154&configid=385260&gsa=0&classicview=redirect">https://www.xicomputer.com/products/con ... w=redirect">https://www.xicomputer.com/products/configure_classic.asp?model=PowerGoIntel154&configid=385260&gsa=0&classicview=redirect

That's a little pricey 'specially considering it looks like it's not onsite... :|

My Dell's have been pretty good. I had 2 fan issues. Then came out next day installed new fans. EASY PEASY. Performance of the Dell is MUCH better upon wiping the drive with all their bloatware on it and doing a bare Windows install, then everything after that. ;
https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/precision-7750-workstation/spd/precision-17-7750-laptop/xctop775017us_vivp?configurationid=91ec6911-3dda-46e6-9b63-35416f9161e9">https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/de ... 416f9161e9">https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/precision-7750-workstation/spd/precision-17-7750-laptop/xctop775017us_vivp?configurationid=91ec6911-3dda-46e6-9b63-35416f9161e9

Here's Johnny! · February 10, 2021, 04:27 AM

[quote="Thee Byte™" post_id=6418 time=1612921319 user_id=50]

Quote from: gcode post_id=6117 time=1612634532 user_id=60
Quote from: mike93 post_id=6048 time=1612574780 user_id=61I want to go back to a fx we used to have them and no trouble then I said we needed the Quotro cards? Any Ways What is the best build for 2021 (mastercam lots of surfacing 5Xing simulating and 300 opparition parts with 200 surfacing ops.

The FX line is is over 15 years old
The Quadro line is 6 years old
The RTX was new in 2018

I have a Quadro 4000 in my home machine and a Quadro RTX 4000 in my work machine
The difference is night and day

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadro">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadro

So the gpu part I get, we are doing a lot of the work on the gpu for cam, so we need the rtx 4k.
What about processor/ram ?
The recommended is 32 gb ram.
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I wouldn't get any less than 64GB at this point, 128GB would be ideal if you can spend the $$$.

gcode · February 10, 2021, 04:51 AM

QuoteI have a Quadro 4000 in my home machine and a Quadro RTX 4000 in my work machine
The difference is night and day

I just reread this and noticed I have it backwards

I'm running the RTX4000 at home and the Quadro 4000 at work.
The RTX smokes the Quadro, especially when running Verify

My work PC is a 7 year old Boxx, my home PC is a one year old Boxx
I have experience with 10+ Boxx machines over a 7 year period and have yet to have
a single failure of any kind on any one of them

byte · February 10, 2021, 05:00 AM

I sae on for 3500 on the site is that like average?

gcode · February 10, 2021, 05:21 AM

[quote="Thee Byte™" post_id=6434 time=1612962024 user_id=50]
I sae on for 3500 on the site is that like average?
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$3500 will buy a pretty good machine
The requirements for a high performance Mastercam machine, in order are

clock speed ... the faster the better.. a plain Jane i7 will outperform a big $$$ Xeon
cores, ... the more the better
Ram ... the more the better 32g for light work .. 64 and up for heavy work
Quadro video card ... the RTX is the latest greatest.. many people use Geforce gaming cards successfully too
SS Hard drive .. the faster the better

Here's Johnny! · February 10, 2021, 05:23 AM

Dell is now taking back my second laptop and sending a new one again. The second one the motherboard died after 2 weeks. I ordered the original at the end of August and I am still trying to get a working system.

They have given me a 3 year Pro Plus support for free now.

Specs are:
Dell 7750
Intel i9-10885H 10th Generation
64GB (4x16, DDR4 Non-Ecc)
(2) 1T PCIe NVMe Class 40 SSD drives
Nvidia Qaudro RTX 4000
Windows 10 Pro

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