Another school shooting.

[Del.]

30,000. 48,000. (First number was wrong, sorry.)

It's the price we pay for our 2A rights. Thoughts and prayers and all that shit. Deal with it.

WTH are you talking about?

[Bucky Cornstarch]

WTH are you talking about?

The number of firearm related deaths per year in the US. It's a fair price to pay for our 2A rights. The country as a whole seems to think so. I'm fine with it. Are you?

[Smit]

How would you enforce such a law?

If there were such a law in place in Georgia, I doubt it's likely this POS's dad would have followed it, given his utter disregard for common fuckin sense. I mean, the FBI shows up and says your kid is threatening to kill classmates in May and you buy him an AR in December.

Sadly, there is no way to know such a law is violated until after something bad happens. Then it's just another incidental charge tacked onto the much more serious ones he's facing.

My guns, except the one I carry, are all locked in a safe. My kids knew the combo somewhere around age 16-18. I was comfortable accepting responsibility for this because I knew neither of them was fucked in the head. I judged the chances of them doing something dumb or heinous to be infinitesimally small. The chances of them needing to access a gun, while also small, I judged to greater.

Allowing minor children to access firearms is like owning a pitbull, it's your decision to make, but if shit goes south, you are responsible for the whatever damage is done.

I agree with you. I am wondering though, if there was no law requiring them to secure the weapons, what law did he break that he can be charged with?

I knew he had an AR-15 but hadn't heard he bought the rifle for his kid.

[riverhunter]

The number of firearm related deaths per year in the US. It's a fair price to pay for our 2A rights. The country as a whole seems to think so. I'm fine with it. Are you?

at least put some facts up with your numbers.  The mental side is the problem.

https://www.google.com/search?q=usa+gun+related+deaths+break+down&rlz=1C1EJFC_enUS1085US1085&oq=usa+gun+related+deaths+break+down&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQIRgKGKABMgkIAhAhGAoYoAEyCQgDECEYChigATIJCAQQIRgKGKABMgkIBRAhGAoYoAEyBwgGECEYqwLSAQoxNTcwN2owajE1qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8



Suicides: 56% of gun deaths in 2023 were suicides. Access to firearms increases the risk of suicide.
Homicides: 35% of gun deaths in 2023 were homicides. Access to firearms in the household doubles the risk of homicide.
Unintentional shootings: Nearly 4% of gun deaths in 2023 were unintentional shootings.
Police shootings: 3% of gun deaths in 2023 were police shootings.
Mass shootings: Less than 2% of gun deaths in 2023 were mass shootings. The number of mass shootings has increased from 414 in 2019 to over 650 in 2023.

[Smit]

You would think a Federal law would be passed to force all states to abide.

I think that would be a fine idea. I expect the majority of the people in this country would agree. The majority of people support back ground checks and red flag laws too but politicians are afraid to pass those laws.

I'd kinda like to hear the hard core gun rights people chime in on this. Would they be common sense laws or federal overreach?

[Bucky Cornstarch]

at least put some facts up with your numbers.  The mental side is the problem.

https://www.google.com/search?q=usa+gun+related+deaths+break+down&rlz=1C1EJFC_enUS1085US1085&oq=usa+gun+related+deaths+break+down&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQIRgKGKABMgkIAhAhGAoYoAEyCQgDECEYChigATIJCAQQIRgKGKABMgkIBRAhGAoYoAEyBwgGECEYqwLSAQoxNTcwN2owajE1qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8



Suicides: 56% of gun deaths in 2023 were suicides. Access to firearms increases the risk of suicide.
Homicides: 35% of gun deaths in 2023 were homicides. Access to firearms in the household doubles the risk of homicide.
Unintentional shootings: Nearly 4% of gun deaths in 2023 were unintentional shootings.
Police shootings: 3% of gun deaths in 2023 were police shootings.
Mass shootings: Less than 2% of gun deaths in 2023 were mass shootings. The number of mass shootings has increased from 414 in 2019 to over 650 in 2023.

I didn't attribute the causes of the firearms deaths. Nor do I give a shit. I simply gave a number. As a country, we are okay with 48,00 deaths per year. As a proud, voting citezen of the US, I am perfectly fine with it.

Are you?

[Jeff]

The number of firearm related deaths per year in the US. It's a fair price to pay for our 2A rights. The country as a whole seems to think so. I'm fine with it. Are you?

You can move to another country that has banned firearms if you don't want the people to own them.

The list includes:
Brunei
Comoros
Cambodia
North Korea
Somalia
Vatican City
Fiji


Seems only 1 of those places would be a nice place to visit.

[Del.]

Can an AR 15 be broken down to hide it easily?

[riverhunter]

I didn't attribute the causes of the firearms deaths. Nor do I give a shit. I simply gave a number. As a country, we are okay with 48,00 deaths per year. As a proud, voting citezen of the US, I am perfectly fine with it.

Are you?

Lets start with some BIGGER numners ( pun intented )

According to the World Health Organization (WHO), at least 2.8 million people die each year from being overweight or obese. Obesity is defined as a body mass index (BMI) of 30 or higher, while overweight is defined as a BMI of 25 or higher.

[Jeff]

Can an AR 15 be broken down to hide it easily?

Don't google that or you'll be put on a list lol

[Jeff]

Lets start with some BIGGER numners ( pun intented )

According to the World Health Organization (WHO), at least 2.8 million people die each year from being overweight or obese. Obesity is defined as a body mass index (BMI) of 30 or higher, while overweight is defined as a BMI of 25 or higher.

Yeah but hasn't the BMI been proven to be a bullshit number?
Guys that are 6 foot tall and weigh 175lbs are considered obese by the BMI aren't they?

[ghuns]

I agree with you. I am wondering though, if there was no law requiring them to secure the weapons, what law did he break that he can be charged with?...

All states have involuntary manslaughter and/or criminally negligent homicide laws.

I don't know exactly what they are in Georgia, but google says...

Involuntary manslaughter means the defendant did not intend to kill the victim, but their actions or negligence resulted in the death.

Criminally negligent homicide is when the defendant committed an act of criminal negligence that resulted in the death of another person. Criminal negligence is more than just ordinary carelessness, inattention, or a mistake in judgment.

[Bucky Cornstarch]

Lets start with some BIGGER numners ( pun intented )

According to the World Health Organization (WHO), at least 2.8 million people die each year from being overweight or obese. Obesity is defined as a body mass index (BMI) of 30 or higher, while overweight is defined as a BMI of 25 or higher.

Wow, that's terrible. It also has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Are you okay with the number of firearms deaths in the US every year?

Or, we could talk about which carburetor is better suited for a 2.4L Porsche flat six with T pistons and E cams. Some prefer Weber, but I went with Zenith. Thoughts? 

[ghuns]

Can an AR 15 be broken down to hide it easily?

Removing two pins gets you to this...

[Bucky Cornstarch]

You can move to another country that has banned firearms if you don't want the people to own them.

The list includes:
Brunei
Comoros
Cambodia
North Korea
Somalia
Vatican City
Fiji


Seems only 1 of those places would be a nice place to visit.

You are making my point, thank you. 48,000 is an acceptable number.