Vaccine required for employment

Started by mowens, October 06, 2021, 12:50 PM

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mowens

We were just told that all U.S. Spirit Aerosystems employees must be vaccinated by December 8 to maintain employment.

They're trying to increase their defense business so they don't want to piss off the government.
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Tim Johnson

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Quote from: mowens post_id=16776 time=1633549834 user_id=74We were just told that all U.S. Spirit Aerosystems employees must be vaccinated by December 8 to maintain employment.

They're trying to increase their defense business so they don't want to piss off the government.


We're in wait mode for now to see how this plays out. This company sells a lot of instruments to .gov but not many companies make what we make also. At least Michigan control is in the hands of the legislature right now and that is good for us minions.
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CNCAppsJames

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Nothing beats a gun to your head when making decisions. :coffee:
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Quote from: CNCAppsJames post_id=16778 time=1633551629 user_id=62Nothing beats a gun to your head when making decisions. :coffee:


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Colorado hospital system requiring COVID-19 vaccine for organ transplants

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Breaking -> Quebec Backtracks on mass dismissal of healthcare workers

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"After weeks of insisting Quebec would go ahead and impose a vaccination mandate for health-care workers and suspend those who don't comply without pay, the province's health minister, Christian Dubé, has backtracked and is now giving them an extra month to get adequately vaccinated.

Health-care workers now have until Nov. 15 to get the necessary shots. The original deadline was this Friday.

Dubé says 96 per cent of health workers have received at least one vaccine dose, but with 21,900 workers still not adequately vaccinated, the health system wouldn't be able to handle losing so much staff."

neurosis

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Boeing just sent out the emails saying that all their employees have to be vaxed by December.   That should get interesting.  I know several that are already saying that they're going to refuse and a LOT more who have been adamantly anti covid vax (oddly enough, all republican :lol: ) who may also refuse.


https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boeing-will-require-its-125000-us-employees-be-vaccinated-against-covid-19-2021-10-12/">Boeing will require its 125,000 U.S. employees to be vaccinated against COVID-19

QuoteWASHINGTON, Oct 12 (Reuters) - Boeing Co (BA.N) said on Tuesday it will require its 125,000 U.S. employees to be vaccinated by Dec. 8 under an executive order issued by President Joe Biden for federal contractors.

"Boeing is requiring its U.S.-based employees to either show proof of vaccination or have an approved reasonable accommodation (based on a disability or sincerely held religious belief) by Dec. 8," the largest U.S. planemaker said.
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

YoDoug

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The thing that I find most interesting about all these companies forcing vaccines is that Biden's magical vax mandate doesn't actually exist. To date there has been nothing filed or no direction given to OSHA. It has just been more smoke and mirrors to the scamdemic. I am making mental notes as to the leftist woke virtue signaling companies that are forcing the vax before any real mandate comes out. It will be considered when I choose to spend my hard earned money. Also there has been talk that any companies that are forcing vaccines based on his teleprompter speech and threat, could be opening up themselves to huge class action lawsuits if it can be proven that employees suffered negative side effects from the forced vaccines.

CNCAppsJames

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From a Federal facility that is one of my customers;

Quote...

Certification of Vaccination
The purpose of this form is to take steps to prevent the spread of COVID-19, to protect the health and safety of all Federal employees, onsite contractors, visitors to Federal buildings or Federally controlled indoor workspaces, and other individuals interacting with the Federal workforce. If you fail to submit this signed attestation or any required negative COVID-19 test, you may be denied entry to a Federal facility.

My Vaccination Status
By checking the box below, I declare that the following statement is true:
 - I am fully vaccinated.1
 - I am not yet fully vaccinated.2
 - I have not been vaccinated.3
 - I decline to respond.

I understand that if I decline to respond or am not fully vaccinated, I must comply with the following safety protocols while in a Federal facility:
• Wear a mask regardless of the level of community transmission;
• Physically distance; and
• Provide proof of having received a negative COVID-19 test from within the previous 3 days if I am a visitor or I am an onsite contractor who is not enrolled in an agency's testing program.

I sign this document under penalty of perjury that the above is true and correct, and that I am the person named below. I understand that a knowing and willful false statement on this form can be punished by fine or imprisonment or both (18 U.S.C. 1001). Checking "I decline to respond" does not constitute a false statement. I understand that if I am a Federal employee or contractor making a false statement on this form could result in additional administrative action, including an adverse personnel action up to and including removal from my position or removal from a contract.

1 The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention considers an individual fully vaccinated if they are:
• 2 weeks after their second dose in a 2-dose series, such as the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines,
• or 2 weeks after a single-dose vaccine, such as Johnson & Johnson's Janssen vaccine
If you don't meet these requirements, regardless of your age, you are not fully vaccinated.

2 Either I have received my first dose of Moderna or Pfizer, and my second appointment is scheduled, or I received my final dose less than two weeks ago.

3 If you are not vaccinated due to medical or religious reasons, please check either "I have not been vaccinated" or "I decline to respond."

Pursuant to 5 U.S.C. § 552a(e)(3), this Privacy Act Statement informs you of why you are being asked to provide this information.
Authority: We are authorized to collect the information requested on this form pursuant to
Executive Order 13991, Protecting the Federal Workforce and Requiring Mask-Wearing (Jan. 20,
2021), Executive Order 12196, Occupational Safety and Health Program for Federal Employees
(Feb. 26, 1980), and 5 U.S.C. chapters 11 and 79.


They claim authority. However, until it's adjudicated it doesn't mean shit. Companies are just complying... go along to get along as the case may be. However, when you take Federal Money no matter where you are in the chain, you take ALL the strings that are attached with it up to and including unconstitutional diktats.

We get the government we deserve, and we deserve to get it good and hard. IOW... #BOHICA
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Incogneeto

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For me it all comes down to a personal choice.

I don't feel I need it.

And nothing has proven to me I'm wrong.

If I had it I have the Immunities.. If I didn't I don't.

From The Beginning it has been said it is sooo infectious. I should have had it.... Soooo?

mkd

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I'll be unemployed by Christmas.

CNCAppsJames

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Quote from: Incogneeto post_id=17114 time=1634160354 user_id=72From The Beginning it has been said it is sooo infectious. I should have had it.... Soooo?


What's taking so long eh? :p
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neurosis

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Quote from: Newbeeee™ post_id=17122 time=1634197638 user_id=157As an observer from a distant land.....It doesn't surprise me.
They are more creative with deeper thinking and their own minds....


All I'm going to say about some of these people, is there is a reason that they are bucking rivets at Boeing.  :lol:  Creative deep thinking isn't the first thing that comes to mind.
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Jeff

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I hope every single company that is requiring this bullshit goes under. Period.

mowens

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This is because of Biden's federal mandate. There are billions of dollars at stake. Boeing is doing the same thing.

This is way higher than HR. Also, it only applies to the U.S. facilities.
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