Russia Ukraine: War soon?

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gcode

Quote from: pmartin on March 23, 2022, 12:22 PMI still think that it would be a good day if Putin fell out a ten story window.
I agree..
It just shows how feared he is that he hasn't been taken out yet.

The old saying, "if you're going to take a shot at the king, make sure you kill him" applies here... in spades

Dan_AKA_ROY23

Quote from: gcode on March 23, 2022, 12:26 PMI agree..
It just shows how feared he is that he hasn't been taken out yet.

The old saying, "if you're going to take a shot at the king, make sure you kill him" applies here... in spades

Putin has a ton of his guys infiltrated throughout his guard. They're everywhere. Russian KGB and military officers (and Kremlin officials) afraid to plot against him because of the vast amount of Putin moles amongst them. No one knows who they can trust.


beej

Human pride weighed you down so heavily that only divine humility could raise you up again. ~Augustine of Hippo

crazy^millman

Here is what I can share form inside the Ukraine. Our family has been getting weekly updates and to protect the family in the Ukraine I didn't put this out there, but I can share this much. Their Name and Exact city was XXXXX out to try to protect them.

QuoteMy dear praying friends,
It's been nearly a month since the start of this senseless war. Russia has failed it's "plan A" (rapid conquering Kyiv and establishing it's own government - their political victory was overthrown by Ukrainian military resistance) and now switched to it's "plan B" when they fortify the overtaken Ukrainian territories with the purpose to create more fake republics like Donbass and Lugansk thus completing the creation of a southern land route from Russian to Crimea peninsula by taking the cities of Mariupol, Kherson and Nikolaev. They are regrouping their survived troops in Ukraine, drafting more soldiers from all over Russia, Chechnya as well as Belorussia readying for new attacks. Fierce air strikes by ballistic missiles, bomber planes and ground artillery are carried out every day non-stop on most northern, central and southern cities in the east of Ukraine. XXXXXX being one of them. Here we have air strikes alerts multiple times a day and every other day some misses reach their targets here or in our neighbouring cities. Our XXXXXX region is now circled from three directions (from Nikopol, Zaporizhe and Krivoy Rog) and we are expecting the enemy ground troops to start entering any week now. The city is being daily heavily fortified, the cars often pulled over during the day and passports photographed and military subpoenas issued, curfew is in place with nightly dim-outs for disguising. One of the pictures below shows you a common Ukrainian horizon these days - pillars of smoke from burning cities as far as the eyes can see. Tragic!

QuoteMy son XXXXXX and I are fine and busy ourselves with what's become a daily routine now - buying food supplies and taking them to wherever they may be needed, visiting people in homes delivering money relief, helping throughout the city wherever the need is at the time. Just recently we were allowed to visit a National Guard base in town. Never been there before. The way we got in was so miraculous. We simply went to the store and bought boxes of chocolate, coffee and fruit. Went to the base. Parked outside and asked to speak to their chaplain. When he came out we introduced ourselves and announced we had food for soldiers and the gospel. We didn't think we'd get in, but were invited onto the territory of the base into the chapel. While inside the Commander and his entourage came in to meet us. We didn't expect it, but in the course of our conversation we were invited to have a meeting with the soldiers. So we proceeded into the main building to their conference room. Soldiers started gathering. Suddenly, air strike sirens went on and all went to the bomb shelter - the meeting was off. We simply remained in the conference room praying. We didn't think we'd have a meeting after all, but the airstrike was over (as we later found out two rockets were shot down with the debris falling not more than 2 miles away from us) and all the soldiers (among which were many women) came out and joined us in the conference hall where we sang songs and I preached for 20 minutes with a clear presentation of the Gospel and most of them praying together at the end. We then proceeded to have a meal with everybody having more conversations and witness. Instead of three minutes at the gate delivering food supplies we spent three hours one on one with the soldiers leaving the base with hugs and handshakes with an invite to come back, which we will do. Praise the Lord! Two days later a similar base in Lviv was air striked and fifty solders died with many injured - men and women in uniform just like the ones we preached to in XXXXXX Oh, how important it is to reach soldiers these days while they are (we are) alive! Praise the Lord we miraculously have these opportunities today!!

gcode

Working for a thug is risky business

QuoteFox News is reporting that the head of Russia's Ministry of Defense, Sergei Shoigu, has not been seen in public for 12 days and is possibly missing. And Anatoly Chubais, the architect of Russia's post-Soviet economic reforms, has quit his post as a Kremlin special envoy and left the country due to the war, according to Reuters.

Further, the Jerusalem Post reports "Colonel-General Sergei Beseda, the head of the Fifth Service of the FSB intelligence service, and Beseda's deputy were being held under house arrest, according to a report by the Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA) non-partisan think tank."

Shoigu has been a minister forever in Russia — since Boris Yeltsin was president — and is slavishly devoted to Putin. But with the war not going as planned, Putin may be trying to send a message to the bureaucracy that failure has a price.

In addition to Shoigu, the chief of the general staff of the armed forces of Russia, Valery Gerasimov, hasn't made any public appearances since shortly after the beginning of the war.

BrianP.

If they don't keep Biden away from a mic he is going to get us in a shooting war with Russia.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/biden-calls-putin-war-criminal-171015086.html

QuoteBut the president also raised eyebrows when he appeared to tell the group that American troops will be going into Ukraine, though he has repeatedly said that he will not send troops there.

"You know, with the Ukrainian people, Ukrainian people have a lot of backbone, they have a lot of guts and I'm sure you're observing it," Biden said. "And you're gonna see when you're there, and some of you have been there. You're gonna see, you're gonna see women, young people standing, standing in the middle, in front of a damn tank, just saying I'm not leaving. I'm holding my ground. They're incredible. But they take a lot of inspiration from us."

Absent minded professor has us going into Ukraine.

gcode

as Obama famously said " Never underestimate Joe's (Biden) ability to fuck things up

and fuck them up, he has


scary stuff, read the whole thing

QuoteThings were looking much better for the pro-Western Zelensky government in Kiev than they had in weeks. So it defies explanation that US President Joe Biden would have hopped on to Air Force One – after having been mostly absent for the duration of this tragic war – flown over to Poland, and made two terrible misstatements at such a critical point in the Russo-Ukrainian relationship.

Yet "misspeak" Mr Biden did!

A man notorious for his inopportune gaffes, Biden went before a group of US Army personnel stationed in Poland and told the 82nd Airborne that they were heading over to Ukraine. From there, Biden went to the nation's capital Warsaw and, supposedly breaking away from his carefully scripted remarks, burbled on about how Vladimir Putin's reign of terror in Moscow needed to end.

This, after Biden a week ago had labeled his Russian counterpart a "war criminal" (and repeating that true but unnecessary claim while in Poland)!

We are told that the US president was misstating the official policy of his administration. However, this strains credulity for two reasons.

First, if the president says it is his policy to view Russian strongman Vladimir Putin as a war criminal, if it is his decision to deploy the 82nd Airborne into war-torn Ukraine, and if he declares that Putin's violent regime must come to an end, by definition, it is now the official policy of his administration (if it wasn't already its unofficial policy). For it not to be the official policy of his administration, President Biden would need to correct his statements publicly.

Second, Biden's White House is stuffed full of advisers who believe that Putin's regime is the greatest evil in history – and these advisers are willing to make a deal with China to punish Moscow.

It is not that hard to believe that President Biden does, in fact, support deploying American troops into Ukraine or that he wants to overthrow the Putin regime as the United States did to Saddam Hussein's or Muammar Gaddafi's regimes (and attempted to do to Bashar al-Assad's government).

The greater question one must ask is: Why? Why on Earth would Biden wade into this geopolitical crisis that could go nuclear at any moment at a time when both the Ukrainian government and the Russian government appeared to be taking de-escalatory steps? And why hasn't Biden come out immediately to correct the record, if he did indeed misspeak?

It is the contention of this author that President Biden did not misspeak.


Dan_AKA_ROY23

CNN article on Azov battalion.

^^^ CNN!!! Oh no! (a very informative article...well done, CNN)

Despite the Azov movement's international notoriety, Ukraine "is not a cesspit for Nazi sympathizers," according to Alexander Ritzmann, a senior adviser at the Counter Extremism Project (CEP), based in Berlin.
He noted that in the last elections in Ukraine in 2019, Azov's political wing only won 2.15% of the vote, and Biletsky lost his seat in parliament.
Plus -- Ritzmann says -- there are far-right actors prominent in Russia, too. "There is a far-right extremist problem on both sides in the conflict, but there seems to be a bias in only reporting on Ukraine's far-right problem," he said.


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The Azov Battalion was formed in 2014, the same year Russian-backed rebels began seizing territory across Ukraine's eastern Donbas region, and Russia invaded and captured Crimea. At the time, Ukraine's Ministry of Defense encouraged volunteer battalions to join the resistance campaign and help its struggling army.
The battalion's role in recapturing Mariupol in June 2014 from Russian-backed forces brought it "hero status" in Ukraine, said Ritzmann.
But that status came with baggage -- the far-right views of some members and neo-Nazi insignia. These included the black sun, "a pagan symbol appropriated by Nazis for their pseudo-religion," and the Wolfsangel, "a symbol that far-right extremists have also adopted," Ritzmann said.

Dan_AKA_ROY23

^^^ Put your CNN stigma aside and read this article. It's actually quite good.

Del.

We need Will Smith to smack the shit out of Biden

pmartin

Quote from: Del. on March 29, 2022, 08:46 AMWe need Will Smith to smack the shit out of Biden

Slap him with your flipper Del.

Dan_AKA_ROY23

Quote from: Del. on March 29, 2022, 08:46 AMWe need Will Smith to smack the shit out of Biden

Can't risk it (Russia has nukes).

Incogneeto

Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 on March 29, 2022, 10:53 AMCan't risk it (Russia has nukes).

And Steven Seagal.

The only hope we have is "Chuck Norris"

beej

QuoteWe got these missiles that are supposed to be able to land on a dime. So all we need is somebody willing to go in there and put this dime on his forehead.
~Waylon Jennings in ref to Sadaam Hussein.
Human pride weighed you down so heavily that only divine humility could raise you up again. ~Augustine of Hippo