Trump Verdict

[gcode]

Does anyone think Trump will be declared innocent?
Did he get a fair trial?

I think the trial was a total sham, a stage-managed show trial with no possible ending but guilty.
I believe the jurors have been told their lives are over should there be a not guilty or hung jury verdict.

It's just another example of how broken our political system is and the lengths to which the Democrats
will go to retain power.

[RobertELee]

When the judge says "they do NOT NEED unanimity to convict. They do not have to all agree on what occurred. 4 can agree on one crime, 4 on a different one, and the other 4 on another. He will treat 4-4-4 as a UNANIMOUS verdict." tells me it is 100% a sham.

[gcode]

And I'll bet the judge will replace any holdouts with alternate jurors should there be a hung jury

[mkd]

I preferred season 2 of the j6 trial.
The production and direction were slightly more covert.
It's just not that interesting drama to have the plot so transparent

[gcode]

This reminds me a an old western I saw
An innocent young man in jail asking the sheriff what's going to happen.
The reply
"Son, you're going to get a fair trial, then we're going to hang you."

[Incogneeto]

Does anyone think Trump will be declared innocent?
Did he get a fair trial?

I think the trial was a total sham, a stage-managed show trial with no possible ending but guilty.
I believe the jurors have been told their lives are over should there be a not guilty or hung jury verdict.

It's just another example of how broken our political system is and the lengths to which the Democrats
will go to retain power.

Well they had DeNiro do his Presser there.

If that is not Jury intimidation I don't know what is.

Who's next?

Jimmy Kimmel , Kathy Griffin , Rosie , Joy.?

[Jim at Gentex]

This was a sham trial in a kangaroo court from day one.

The judge committed SOOOOOOO many errors, and the rigged jury instructions were just the icing on the cake.
They violate Donald Trump's sixth amendment rights, and they directly contradict two Supreme Court rulings on jury unanimity.

They know full well this travesty will be overturned, but they don't care.
They NEED a conviction before November because they know they can't beat Trump at the polls.

This is exactly the same as the two sham impeachments, except that they are now using the courts instead of Congress to try to destroy this man.

I hope everyone is paying attention to how the courts are being weaponized, and how Trump's individual civil rights are being trampled right before our eyes. 

Then ask yourself..."Who is next?"

[gcode]

Then ask yourself..."Who is next?"

Trump supporters, who must be deprogrammed.

[Jim at Gentex]

Trump supporters, who must be deprogrammed.

Yeah, I got their deprogramming right here...  

[YoDoug]

I would say that in our lifetimes we will all have to choose between living on our knees or risk dying on our feet, however it is more likely to be like a frog in a pot of cold water on the stove. By the time the masses realize what we given up it may be too late to do anything about it.

[mkd]

It would be hilarious and awesome if the inevitable conviction gets Trump street cred, winning the black vote. Blowing up demonrats most reliable voting block in the process.

[beej]

NDA's are legal. no crime
NDA's are a legal agreement and therefor could easily be classified as a legal fee on business's books. no crime
His company is a private company so he is not defrauding the public. no crime
FEC already decided there was no crime committed when looking at the campaign finance laws. no crime.
Alvin Bragg has no jurisdiction over Federal campaigns even if Trump had violated them which the FEC said he didn't.

[beej]

what people think of the trial so far

https://americasnewmajorityproject.com/the-judges-daughter-and-other-most-concerning-facts-about-the-trump-trial/

"Corrupt" vs "Unfair"

    64% of Americans say the justice system is corrupt, rather than honest, including 72% of Republicans, 57% of Democrats, 63% of independents, and a majority of all age, gender, and racial demographic groups.
    In contrast, Americans are divided on the fairness of the justice system, with 51% saying unfair and 45% saying fair. Younger voters, blacks, and Hispanics are more likely than others to say the justice system is unfair.
    The difference in results shows that "corrupt" is much stronger language to use when describing the system that indicted former President Trump.

Political Indictments

    54% of Americans say the indictments of Trump are being done to prevent him from becoming president again, including 88% of Republicans, 25% of Democrats, and 53% of swing voters.
    70% New Majority voters say the indictments of Trump are being done to prevent him from becoming president again, including 48% of those undecided and 34% of those planning to vote for a Democrat for Congress.
    In contrast, just 18% of Left Minority voters say the indictments are being done to prevent Trump from becoming president again.

Following, but not Closely

    61% of Americans say they are following news of the trial of Trump in New York City, but only 21% say they are following it "very closely."
    Republicans and Democrats are more likely than swing voters and independents to be following the news very closely. Men and baby boomers are also more likely to be following the news very closely than women and younger voters, respectively.

Modest Potential Impact of Conviction

    51% of Americans say if Trump is found guilty in the trial, it will make no difference in their vote in November. 25% say more likely and 25% say less likely.
    Among swing voters, 19% say more likely to vote for Trump and 27% say less likely.
    New Majority voters who are planning to vote for a Democrat for Congress are most likely to say their vote will be impacted, with 48% saying it makes them less likely to vote for Trump in November if he is convicted.

Conflicts of Interest and Partisanship

    The most concerning facts about the case involve conflicts of interest and the partisan leanings of the judge and prosecutor in the case.
    67% say the judge's conflict of interest regarding his daughter's use of the trial to fundraise for the Democrats is concerning, including 69% of voters undecided for president in 2024.
    66% say the novel nature of charging Trump with a felony for what is usually a misdemeanor is concerning, including 67% of voters undecided for president in 2024.
    61% say the prosecution and judge's refusal to let Trump's lawyers know who was testifying against him is concerning, including 57% of voters undecided for president in 2024.
    60% say the prosecutor's background as a consultant for the Democratic National Committee and top prosecutor for the Biden Justice Department is concerning, including 62% of those undecided for president.

[Incogneeto]

Does anyone think Trump will be declared innocent?

Let's be clear.

The Judge clearly said.

"He cannot leave the Building"

That means No Campaigning anywhere nearby Like Fire Stations or Police Stations.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-05-29-24/h_23b0f0178b903ac9c7f6db9f6381c5ed

He's already under detention. They won't be Happy till they put on The Cuffs.

[beej]

He's already under detention. They won't be Happy till they put on The Cuffs.

and probably hoping to have something like a J6 event to boot.