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Started by Del., September 08, 2024, 12:56 PM

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Smit

Quote from: Del. on September 13, 2024, 08:06 AMShe keeps saying " The Trump abortion ban"

That's an outright lie they didn't fact check. He could not be clearer in his position.

Really? Your criteria for an "outright lie" is pretty low.

If you want to call that an outright lie then everything said by both people was an outright lie. Mischaracterizing policies, actions, events, and current economical conditions is a staple of policy in this country!  :fish:

On a side note, Trump changes his thoughts on abortion depending on who he is talking to but I'm not gonna get in to that. :)

Quote from: mowens on September 13, 2024, 08:11 AMIf people are that stupid then we should have a monarchy.

Maybe?

I think Americans are too unruly though.
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Del.

Quote from: Smit on September 13, 2024, 08:21 AMReally? Your criteria for an "outright lie" is pretty low.

If you want to call that an outright lie then everything said by both people was an outright lie. Mischaracterizing policies, actions, events, and current economical conditions is a staple of policy in this country!  :fish:

On a side note, Trump changes his thoughts on abortion depending on who he is talking to but I'm not gonna get in to that. :)

Maybe?

I think Americans are too unruly though.

The facts are
Food cost are way up
Fuel is way up
Insurance is way up
Transportation is way up
World conflict is way up
All of these under Biden/Harris
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Jeff

The criteria for an outright lie is pretty low?
It's a lie. Period. There is no such thing as a Trump abortion ban. It doesn't exist. It never has.
Therefore, it's an outright lie.



neurosis

Quote from: Del. on September 13, 2024, 08:30 AMThe facts are
Food cost are way up
Fuel is way up
Insurance is way up
Transportation is way up
World conflict is way up
All of these under Biden/Harris

Those are probably points Trump should have stuck to.  Even if he resorted to hyperbole, you can't argue those points and for most people, would be difficult to do the research in to why we are where we are. As long as he didn't start trying to add numbers and percentages to things (things that can be fact checked).  :D 
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I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Incogneeto

Quote from: mowens on September 13, 2024, 07:56 AMYou don't think people are smart enough to see a lie that big? You think a reporter, or moderator, is so much smarter than the average person that their job should be to tell people what to think?

Bucky took a Journalism Class. ::)
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Smit

Quote from: Del. on September 13, 2024, 08:30 AMThe facts are
Food cost are way up
Fuel is way up
Insurance is way up
Transportation is way up
World conflict is way up
All of these under Biden/Harris

Which is not to say they were caused by Biden/Harris. To say it is, well, that's a mischaracterization. Which is a time honored tradition in the United States. :)
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Smit

Quote from: neurosis on September 13, 2024, 08:40 AMfor most people, would be difficult to do the research in to why we are where we are. As long as he didn't start trying to add numbers and percentages to things (things that can be fact checked).  :D 

Are you trying to say Americans are dummies?!?! Outrageous!  :realmad:
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Del.

Quote from: neurosis on September 13, 2024, 08:40 AMThose are probably points Trump should have stuck to.  Even if he resorted to hyperbole, you can't argue those points and for most people, would be difficult to do the research in to why we are where we are. As long as he didn't start trying to add numbers and percentages to things (things that can be fact checked).  :D 


Absolutely!  When she said he left you mess he should have said, Yes, I left you with low inflation, a more secure border, a Covid Vaccine, no wars, an energy independence etc.

Why the fuck he didn't say these things is beyond me.

RobertELee

Quote from: Del. on September 13, 2024, 08:50 AMAbsolutely!  When she said he left you mess he should have said, Yes, I left you with low inflation, a more secure border, a Covid Vaccine, no wars, an energy independence etc.

Why the fuck he didn't say these things is beyond me.

I would leave out the Vax.
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Newbeeee™

Quote from: Del. on September 13, 2024, 08:50 AMAbsolutely!  When she said he left you mess he should have said, Yes, I left you with low inflation, a more secure border, a Covid Vaccine, no wars, an energy independence etc.

Why the fuck he didn't say these things is beyond me.
Because they're gunna keep raising a whole lot more....
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neurosis

Quote from: RobertELee on September 13, 2024, 08:53 AMI would leave out the Vax.

The vax may have been a turn off to his base, but if he's trying to win over independents it isn't a bad point. If you don't take the mandates in to consideration, which Trump wasn't responsible for, it was quite an accomplishment.
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I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Jeff

Quote from: Del. on September 13, 2024, 08:50 AMAbsolutely!  When she said he left you mess he should have said, Yes, I left you with low inflation, a more secure border, a Covid Vaccine, no wars, an energy independence etc.

Why the fuck he didn't say these things is beyond me.
That's how he nuked Biden when they debated.
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Elmer Fudd

Del do you mean "no new wars"? We was still in Afghanistan.
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Del.

Remember when they asked her a question that covered 3 things and she said I'm going to cover all 3 of them and then rambled on about everything but those things. Trump has some major personality flaws but I hope people can see she can't handle this job and he did and can again. He just needs a shock collar so I can zap him when he rants.
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Jeff

Quote from: Elmer Fudd on September 13, 2024, 09:26 AMDel do you mean "no new wars"? We was still in Afghanistan.
And everything was set in place for a peaceful withdrawl, until Biden threw that out the window and pulled everyone back asap. He is responsible for one of the greatest military blunders in our nation's history and the deaths of 13 service members.
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