Jon Stewart: Military Secrecy and DOD Budget | War Horse Symposium

[YoDoug]

Yep!!

Seattle

Los Angeles

Chicago

New York

Sounds Like a Win/Win.

Just another reason why "the Elite want nuclear war" conspiracy is BS. They sure as f@#$ don't want to kill off all the big city progressive socialist voters. You kill off 50-100 million in a dozen big cities and this country would be under full R majority control for a generation or more.

[Incogneeto]

Just another reason why "the Elite want nuclear war" conspiracy is BS. They sure as f@#$ don't want to kill off all the big city progressive socialist voters. You kill off 50-100 million in a dozen big cities and this country would be under full R majority control for a generation or more.

What part of Win/Win Don't you Understand??

[mowens]

And that's part of the problem.

The old, "This is the way we've always done it" excuse doesn't cut it anymore.

Yes, there will always be classified R&D Defense projects, and rightfully so.
But that doesn't mean that there should be ZERO accountability for them as there always was in the past.

Creating and funding a 'Classified R&D Projects' budget item within the overall DoD budget structure can at least provide an accountability mechanism for those tax dollars without compromising national security. 

Select Congressional committees could have access to sensitive details on a need-to-know basis for the purpose of oversight, which is not perfect, but far better than just siphoning off billions of taxpayer dollars into a black hole with zero accountability.

JM2CFWIW

They are not necessarily R&D projects. See SCI

[CNCAppsJames]

You kill off 50-100 million in a dozen big cities and this country would be under full R majority control for a generation or more.

Probably super-majority control until what remains of the left can import enough illegals to pump up their rookie numbers because the left's women are on a sex strike so there will be no offspring coming from those screeching harpies.

[Del.]

Nuclear war IS coming. That's a fact.

Some of the players are already known. Israel, Iran, and Russia. What I don't know are if each country's allies will get involved in a nuclear exchange.

I'll send my exact coordinates when the time comes. I don't want to limp away.

[CNCAppsJames]

I'll send my exact coordinates when the time comes. I don't want to limp away.

Move to Israel. Guaranteed there will be no limping.

[Jim at Gentex]

They are not necessarily R&D projects.

I think you know what I mean.

The practice of unaccounted tax dollars being funneled down a black hole with zero accountability for any reason has to end if we are ever going to GET SERIOUS about changing the way we do business.

[Newbeeee™]

Move to Israel. Guaranteed there will be no limping.

I've had my marching orders - we gunna move to Cyprus 

[neurosis]

What interests me, was his claims regarding the tunnel boring machines.
I have no idea if true or not, but love the fact Elon now "owns" a tunnelling company
BTW - why is something you don't believe a "conspiracy"? You know you're peddling CIA insults....

By conspiracy, or conspiracy theory, I just mean that it's unproven. I'm probably not using the term right? It doesn't matter if I believe it or not.

[Newbeeee™]

By conspiracy, or conspiracy theory, I just mean that it's unproven. I'm probably not using the term right? It doesn't matter if I believe it or not.

Unproven is good  ....albeit nowadays the ones "proving", doesn't mean it's factual?
Weapons of Mass distraction
Climate change
Cow farts
Men can have babies
Safe AND effective
Yada Yada

[mowens]

I think you know what I mean.

The practice of unaccounted tax dollars being funneled down a black hole with zero accountability for any reason has to end if we are ever going to GET SERIOUS about changing the way we do business.

I see it as a Catch-22. They need some sort of oversite but I'm not sure I trust any lawmaker with that kind of information.

[Jim at Gentex]

I see it as a Catch-22. They need some sort of oversite but I'm not sure I trust any lawmaker with that kind of information.

Agreed.

That's why I said it wouldn't be ideal to have Congressional oversight, but it would be better than no oversight at all.

We have to trust our Reps. and Senators to a certain degree anyway, so when they are involved in high-level, closed-door meetings, that trust has to still be in effect.

We all know D.C. leaks like a sieve, so we would need to make sure that any Rep. or Senator, or their staff, who is caught leaking classified information should face the MOST severe penalties.   

[Bucky Cornstarch]

Just another reason why "the Elite want nuclear war" conspiracy is BS. They sure as f@#$ don't want to kill off all the big city progressive socialist voters. You kill off 50-100 million in a dozen big cities and this country would be under full R majority control for a generation or more.

We know Nutcons are into voter suppression, but wouldn't that be taking things a bit to the extreme? Isn't the point to do it while no one notices?

 

[Newbeeee™]

I'm sorry newb, You'll have to forgive me if I take someone who pushed the conspiracy that there was an alien named "Valiant Thor" working for the Federal Government with a grain of salt. 

The guy was a bit of a cook and was known to have lied about a lot of things. He was popular in the alien community, that's for sure. 

Just to answer this in full , and to be clear, are you dissing Harvard?

https://www.newsweek.com/alien-life-extraterrestrial-living-earth-harvard-1912264

[CNCAppsJames]

We all know D.C. leaks like a sieve, so we would need to make sure that any Rep. or Senator, or their staff, who is caught leaking classified information should face the MOST severe penalties. 

Firing squad 100% of the time. EVERY TIME! And it's FAST. We find out. You get arrested. Trial is fast tracked. Appeals are fast tracked. Once appeals are exhausted you have 24 hours to live.

If it is later found out the wrong individual was tried and/or evidence was manufactured, the Prosecutor and the WHOLE PROSECUTION TEAM down to the person that just copied paper, they meet the same fate. No appeals.

That should be a sufficient deterrent on both sides to keep shenanigans to a minimum. It is DC though and shenanigans is it's middle name.

As it is now, there is no deterrent for treason anymore. You get 3 hots and a cot and all the sex you can handle.