Warm winter is absolute proof of climate change

[YoDoug]

Sure, morally. If you're trying to get results your personal morals aren't going to help you unless you can convince others to join in. 

I just don't think waiting for the next guy to behave is a valid excuse for my misbehavior. I'm not saying we destroy our economy and way of life, but there changes that could be made.

[YoDoug]

I don't believe that at all. If you took all of the people in the world, and gave them 9 square feet to stand on they wouldn't fill up Puerto Rico. And the rest of the world would be empty. Not a single person in Africa, Europe, Asia, or South or North American continents or Australia.

I'm not at the point that I think there are too many people from a resource standpoint. That's why I added the part about going back to pre-internet. It sucks to feel this way but I think the human race is beyond saving, at least here on earth. We will end up destroying ourselves and possibly the planet, or we will all end up enslaved. 

[beej]

What I see people denying, is that man has any measurable effect on the climate change.

It's a hard sell. the amount of CO2 in our atmosphere has historically been around .0003 it's gone up to .00042

That number is so small, it's hard for a lot of people, including myself to comprehend how .00012 could make much of a difference. Scientists are famous for saying, for extraordinary claims, you need extraordinary proof. You can't blame people for needing more evidence, that this is indeed man made.

[Del.]

I'm listing my home as " Oceanfront coming soon "

[Incogneeto]

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2301994120

The Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai (HTHH) volcanic eruption on 15 January 2022 is unprecedented in the modern era in both the amount of water vapor injected into the stratosphere and the depth of penetration. The perturbation to water vapor and sulfate aerosols from this volcano significantly altered temperatures, dynamics, and chemistry in the stratosphere, including reductions in stratospheric column ozone, which is essential for protecting life on Earth from harmful ultraviolet radiation. Here, the global evolution of the injected water vapor in latitude, altitude, and time is analyzed for the year following the eruption using satellite data. Significant changes in the concentrations of various chemical compounds in the stratosphere are identified and linked to the HTHH eruption.
Abstract
The explosive eruption of the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai (HTHH) volcano on 15 January 2022 injected more water vapor into the stratosphere and to higher altitudes than ever observed in the satellite era. Here, the evolution of the stratospherically injected water vapor is examined as a function of latitude, altitude, and time in the year following the eruption (February to December 2022), and perturbations to stratospheric chemical composition resulting from the increased sulfate aerosols and water vapor are identified and analyzed. The average calculated mass distribution of elevated water vapor between hemispheres is approximately 78% Southern Hemisphere (SH) and 22% Northern Hemisphere in 2022. Significant changes in stratospheric composition following the HTHH eruption are identified using observations from the Aura Microwave Limb Sounder satellite instrument. The dominant features in the monthly mean vertical profiles averaged over 15° latitude ranges are decreases in O3 (–14%) and HCl (–22%) at SH midlatitudes and increases in ClO (>100%) and HNO3 (43%) in the tropics, with peak pressure-level perturbations listed. Anomalies in column ozone from 1.2–100 hPa due to the HTHH eruption include widespread O3 reductions in SH midlatitudes and O3 increases in the tropics, with peak anomalies in 15° latitude-binned, monthly averages of approximately –7% and +5%, respectively, occurring in austral spring. Using a 3-dimensional chemistry–climate–aerosol model and observational tracer correlations, changes in stratospheric composition are found to be due to both dynamical and chemical factors.

Condensed version..... The Earth Farted.

It does it alot.

[Incogneeto]

Sure, morally. If you're trying to get results your personal morals aren't going to help you unless you can convince others to join in. 

But I don't want to be a Flaming  ,Vegan , Liberal. 

[Incogneeto]

Yep!! That'll do it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/california-bill-would-ban-all-plastic-shopping-bags-at-grocery-stores/ar-BB1hZKuX?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=b2a50b39d00540b2a10f58e7d857d82e&ei=22

I would bitch at my ex , open the cabinet under the sink and there would be 4,000 plastic walmart bags.

I told her "You are not saving the world by keeping them under our sink"

"Recycle Re-use"

P.S. what did that poor Bastid do to have to wear them Bags??

Notice they are all women laughing at him??

And he is the only Black man in the room.?

Target and walmart bags also.

Man they hit the Trifecta...LOL!!!

[RobertELee]

It's a hard sell. the amount of CO2 in our atmosphere has historically been around .0003 it's gone up to .00042

That number is so small, it's hard for a lot of people, including myself to comprehend how .00012 could make much of a difference. Scientists are famous for saying, for extraordinary claims, you need extraordinary proof. You can't blame people for needing more evidence, that this is indeed man made.

And if it gets down to around .02% plant life starts dying because there isn't enough to feed them.

[Tim Johnson]

Our solar system is in a orbit around the Sagittarius A black hole. No orbit is perfectly round and and our Earth has had many cold and hot climates just doing one 220 million year lap around around the galaxy. We very well could be in the  very beginning of another 10 million year galaxial hot cycle.

[Incogneeto]

Our solar system is in a orbit around the Sagittarius A black hole. No orbit is perfectly round and and our Earth has had many cold and hot climates just doing one 220 million year lap around around the galaxy. We very well could be in the  very beginning of another 10 million year galaxial hot cycle.

The Afghan Girl next door is making me Hot.

And I ain't waitin 10 days let alone 10 million.

[Jim at Gentex]

The Afghan Girl next door is making me Hot.

And I ain't waitin 10 days let alone 10 million.

You haven't hit that yet?

Dude...your rep is gettin' tarnished as we speak. 

[CNCAppsJames]

Sorry, missed that point. Do you think rising temps are an issue....

Temps have been rising for millenia. At one time, glaciers covered most of North America. But they receded.

The earth is a cyclic organism. It warms and cools and has been doing so since it's creation. Volcanic activity gets a vote, oh, and that LITTLE BALL OF FIRE IN THE SKY gets a vote too. And for the record, there's not one thing Greta and her climate change terrorists and hypocrites can do about it.

Ever been to a US National Park like Zion, Bryce Canyon, or the Grand Canyon? I dare you to look at that and claim "man was the cause of that".

The term "fossil fuel" is horseshit. Just how may dinosaurs do you think walked the earth? How many dinosaurs does it take to make a barrel of oil?

Look, I'm not saying we should not be the best stewards of what we have here. Not by a long shot. I just refuse to tow the line that we have to do whatever, at whatever the cost, all the while China and India don't have to play along and these shit birds flying their extremely inefficient Cessna and Gulfstream jets all over the planet... you know, to save the planet while I was being forced to buy an EV that absolutely will NOT get the job done for me and my life and that my charcoal BBQ is killing polar bears.

[Brad St]

Science...=)

is only our current method of perception of the things we wish to affect per our method of seeing it, in my humble opinion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

Science once thought this.

[YoDoug]

Science...=)

is only our current method of perception of the things we wish to affect per our method of seeing it, in my humble opinion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

Science once thought this.

I really can't decide if the flat earth people are just some sort of collective group of online trolls, or are there actually idiots that really believe it.

[mowens]

The term "fossil fuel" is horseshit. Just how may dinosaurs do you think walked the earth? How many dinosaurs does it take to make a barrel of oil?

Fossil fuels are compound mixtures made of fossilized plant and animal remnants from millions of years ago. The creation of fossil fuels—either oil, natural gas, or coal—from these fossils is determined by the type of fossil, the amount of heat, and the amount of pressure.

What are fossil fuels